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Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:41 PM Aug 2017

Free speech: gay wedding cake and Resort for White Nationalists

Someone wrote a LTE comparing the case where a Colorado Springs resort cancelled the White Nationalist convention and the case where Colorado's anti-discrimination law forces a wedding cake business to sell to gays.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/27/should-businesses-be-able-to-deny-services-to-gays-white-nationalists/

The letter writer argues that both cases are the same and:
"Why should a business have the right to deny service to someone just because they do not agree with the business owner’s beliefs or values?"
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Of course the Colorado law doesn't specifically protect White Nationalists so the letter writer doesn't really understand the situation. If the letter writer was making a moral case, then should we be more subjective rather than objective?

The Gay wedding case involves love while the White Nationalists involve hate. Oh yes, they could argue that White Nationalists love themselves.

The problem boils down to the Bible which is the "official" arbitreur of morality. Interpretations of the Bible give it a definite bias against gays. Yet the Bible doesn't really allow anyone to disobey the golden rule. People wrongly pick and choose which part of the Bible to obey. Even Trump's love of Nazis demonstrates how he doesn't understand the basic idea: love trumps hate.

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Free speech: gay wedding cake and Resort for White Nationalists (Original Post) Democrats_win Aug 2017 OP
all the idiots at the bakery had to say was, "sorry, we are too busy to take on your order". niyad Aug 2017 #1
I tried to book a conference there... Baconator Aug 2017 #4
kind of surprised at that. the center is usually much better than that. niyad Aug 2017 #5
I think I know the difference! Initech Aug 2017 #2
a work of fiction is irrelevant as a moral arbiter nt msongs Aug 2017 #3
Like any other resident of Colorado Jake Stern Aug 2017 #6

niyad

(113,306 posts)
1. all the idiots at the bakery had to say was, "sorry, we are too busy to take on your order".
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:45 PM
Aug 2017

as for the assholes who wanted the cheyenne mountain resort, I am thankful to the resort, saved me at least one day of protests.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
4. I tried to book a conference there...
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:02 PM
Aug 2017

... and the staff never got back to me.

Guess they were busy with neo-nazis.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
2. I think I know the difference!
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:48 PM
Aug 2017

People *WANT* gay weddings. People *DON'T* want Nazis and white supremacists. Difference? Gay weddings are good for the economy and spread messages of love and inclusion. Nazis and white supremacists spread messages of hate and ignorance. That is my best guess!

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
6. Like any other resident of Colorado
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:16 PM
Aug 2017

The letter writer is free to lobby the General Assembly to add political affiliation to the state's anti-discrimination laws. Even then the resort might be protected in barring them due to the threat of conflict on their premises between white nationalists and counter protesters.

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