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I guess it is true a Houston Police officer did (Original Post) burnbaby Aug 2017 OP
So sad mcar Aug 2017 #1
Once water is above the doors it's The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #2
don't mean to sound so naive burnbaby Aug 2017 #4
If they are electric windows forget it. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #6
The wiring will still allow power windows to work. NutmegYankee Aug 2017 #37
Or shoot the window out. trof Aug 2017 #7
You can buy a tool that shatters the glass MissB Aug 2017 #10
I've got one too underpants Aug 2017 #17
Me too Lebam in LA Aug 2017 #18
I don't drive underwater. AngryAmish Aug 2017 #21
lol nt burnbaby Aug 2017 #23
I won't drive in the water madokie Aug 2017 #26
Police usually carry those tools too. But, when you are panicking . . . . . . Sad. Hoyt Aug 2017 #24
Police have guns, they don't need those tools. former9thward Aug 2017 #32
True, but those things are usually for getting people out of wrecks, babies locked in cars, etc. Hoyt Aug 2017 #35
Things can happen really fast TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #11
I am wondering if he had a medical emergency that prevented him from MerryBlooms Aug 2017 #19
I'm wondering if he was just so tired he wasn't thinking straight. hamsterjill Aug 2017 #22
Could be. The whole situation is tragic. MerryBlooms Aug 2017 #25
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #29
Really sad. Blue_true Aug 2017 #27
Yes, he knew him, but the chief has only been here for less than a year TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #34
Thanks for the link. Seemed like a dedicated guy. nt Blue_true Aug 2017 #36
That, plus darkness, plus he was probably already exhausted... haele Aug 2017 #20
Officers have several ways to break the window, their baton or gun would both work. Wiseman32218 Aug 2017 #30
Yes, he died going to work on Sunday herding cats Aug 2017 #3
I'm tearing up listening to him too. PearliePoo2 Aug 2017 #5
RIP Sgt. Steve Perez. B2G Aug 2017 #8
Imagine if there had been 4+ million people on the road trying to evacuate... eom Purveyor Aug 2017 #9
The cops don't carry window breakers? Adrahil Aug 2017 #12
Or just anyone should have them. MissB Aug 2017 #13
Yup...we have one in every car. Here's the one I have... Adrahil Aug 2017 #15
Doing his duty to help others. Makes me teary. SharonClark Aug 2017 #14
Sucks. Iggo Aug 2017 #16
That's so sad Lotusflower70 Aug 2017 #28
"Guess it is true?!" Yes, it was reported everywhere, and it is a tragedy. He was going in to help. anneboleyn Aug 2017 #31
He was from the government and he really was there to help. (n/t) Jim Lane Aug 2017 #33
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
2. Once water is above the doors it's
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:28 PM
Aug 2017

Impossible to get out.

He probably drove into water that was deeper than he thought.

It's very sad.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
37. The wiring will still allow power windows to work.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 09:11 PM
Aug 2017

They will go down as long as the car hasn't sunk enough to have water pressing on the window. Once water is on the window, even hand cranked windows won't open due to the force against the glass.

MissB

(15,808 posts)
10. You can buy a tool that shatters the glass
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:40 PM
Aug 2017

They are pretty inexpensive. I keep one in my console between the seats.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
26. I won't drive in the water
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:47 PM
Aug 2017

let alone under it.

Even though I'm an old salt I still can't swim very well

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
32. Police have guns, they don't need those tools.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:45 PM
Aug 2017

That said, I have no idea what the situation was with this officer.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. True, but those things are usually for getting people out of wrecks, babies locked in cars, etc.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:31 PM
Aug 2017

Don't think you'd want to shoot the window out by shooting toward the person in the car. In any event, you are right that no one knows what happened with this policeman.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
11. Things can happen really fast
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:43 PM
Aug 2017

He chose, against his family's wishes, to go into work. He was driving in the evening when it's even harder to tell the depth of the water on the road. He told his wife "I have work to do". He was a 34 year veteran of HPD, probably looking forward to retirement soon.

Obviously if people could always escape from their vehicles they would. They can't always. People drown.

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
19. I am wondering if he had a medical emergency that prevented him from
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:30 PM
Aug 2017

being able to escape his vehicle. There will be an autopsy, it may show something besides drowning.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
22. I'm wondering if he was just so tired he wasn't thinking straight.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:36 PM
Aug 2017

Many of these first responders have not slept in days now.

Heartbreaking...

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
25. Could be. The whole situation is tragic.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:43 PM
Aug 2017

I finally heard from a dear friend last night. Safe at her brother's place, but had water in her house. Everyone else I know in the area are built on higher ground- I'm super thankful, yet heartbroken. Also seeing the Pictures out of Galveston and such... I love the Gulf area. I'm just so sad for everyone experiencing this disaster.

Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #19)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. Really sad.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:48 PM
Aug 2017

Seems the guy wanted to be out helping people. If the Chief was crying, he maybe knew the guy.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
34. Yes, he knew him, but the chief has only been here for less than a year
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:27 PM
Aug 2017

The officer was a sergeant, so the chief knew him better than a general patrolman. He was just a few weeks (days?) shy of his 61 birthday. Read more here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/houston-officer-dies-heading-work-flood-relief-article-1.3452574

haele

(12,654 posts)
20. That, plus darkness, plus he was probably already exhausted...
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:34 PM
Aug 2017

Exhaustion and the confusion it creates kills more people in emergency situations.

Haele

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
3. Yes, he died going to work on Sunday
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:28 PM
Aug 2017

They're just now able to recover his body today due to the flooding at I45 and Hardy Toll Road.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. The cops don't carry window breakers?
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:44 PM
Aug 2017

I was a fireman for 2 years before college. We ALL carried spring-loaded window breakers and strap cutters. Seems like any first responder should have one.

My deepest sympathies to his friends and loved ones.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
31. "Guess it is true?!" Yes, it was reported everywhere, and it is a tragedy. He was going in to help.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:16 PM
Aug 2017

Many tragedies are happening as the effects of the storm wreak havoc on Texas. The officials have said repeatedly that many people are missing, and that we won't know how many people have actually died for some time (as after Katrina -- some people were considered "missing" for many months).

I don't know why you titled your post in that way as it seems to imply doubt in the story for some reason (which I don't really understand -- this story was widely covered by reputable sources)? But yes it happened, and it is heartbreaking as this man was going in to HELP other distressed people in need of help, and he leaves behind his family to mourn him. There were be other responders who either die or are seriously injured as they try to help the victims as they are doing life-saving work that is very dangerous. This story is very sad, and this is what heroism is -- an ordinary man risking his life to help people in need.

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