The invisible hand of the free market place will save you.

by people with an agenda. I feel very sorry for anybody who has lost their home and all their possessions, and I'm not going to let politics make me as mean as some of the right-wingers.

Politics shouldn't make us lose our humanity.
And sentiments like the ones expressed in the OP are not going to win Democrats any friends.

of annihilation winning needs to be everything otherwise we will never win an election again

do you think posts like this will help people on the fence come to our side?

Some of these people are old enough to know better.

No, sorry. People who are suffering and need help should be given help. Should the rescuers ask the stranded people in Houston what party they belong to, who they voted for, whether they believe in climate change? Of course not. We can hope this disaster will open some eyes, but if you don't feel compassion for the people who are going through this...

denied the possibilities of a disaster like this and/or supported idiots for office who voted against or otherwise didn't support federal disaster relief will learn from this tragedy. Maybe they won't. Compassion should be freely given.

They ate the crap willingly, because they were too ignorant to look beyond their own self imposed limits!!!

Some had their "religion", others had their contempt of scientists, and relished it!

When you come right down to it, it was their own stupidity that they fed on...and they did as if it were a steak!!!

We need to quit making excuses for those who voted for Trump, we need to making excuses for people who are as fanatical as ISIL, we need to quit making excuse for people who would rather drink water mixed with coal ash or breath air so thick that you can cut it with a knife!!!

They walked into their idiocy with eyes wide open, singing praise Jesus, and not caring a tinker's damn for anyone else!!

Now, I admit I can be as mean as they are...and there will come time in the future where we will have to be that way! But for now let's give them a hand, because by helping the idiots we also help those that didn't buy into the whole line of crap...an those are the important ones!!!

as do the majority of the people in Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, El Paso and all of the cities in Texas. I get so damned tired of hearing all of the judgement thrown down by people who assume that everyone who lives in Texas is someone who "ate the crap willingly, because they were too ignorant to look beyond their own self imposed limits" as you say. Texas votes reliably conservative as a state because of redistricting - not because we all drank the kool-aid. I wish some on DU would park their judgemental attitudes and try to have a little empathy for what their fellow humans are going through right now.

is one thing that caused that storm to stall, pick up part of the Caribbean, and dump it on Texas. If they come that far, there is hope.

If they rebuild, they are dead to me

I have conservative republican friends in Texas. We've been texting/talking throughout this. They are so far fine but have neighbors and friends that have lost everything. My friends are a great family that would give the shirts off their backs for neighbors (and probably will after this is over). We may not agree on politics and causes, but they have homes, friends, families.

I'll say this as politely as possible, fuck you. You probably don't have any real empathy.

give them rides, make sure my mom never feels embarrassed due to failing memory and declining cognitive function.

I have no idea what they think about climate change, but whatever they know or don't know, I wouldn't wish Houston on them.

Compassion is always needed in a situation such as this, even for the foolish and deluded. Maybe especially for them.

do unto others as you would have them do unto you...that doesn't apply to republican conservatives? I repeat...where were they during Katrina...empathy and understanding is not a one way street

Yes, there were GOPers and conservatives who were nasty and cruel during Katrina (Barbara Bush comes to mind). But there were also many people who were out there rescuing people. The bad attitudes of some at that time does not justify returning the "favor" this time. If it was bad for them it's bad for us.

Bullshit.

People don't earn your empathy.

Like I said, you don't appear to have any empathy. period.

is "part of the problem". If you drive a vehicle, use a vehicle or products delivered on a vehicle, use manufactured goods, consume food that's processed or that's not grown by you or next door to you, you are "part of the problem".

Plenty of people believe climate change is real, believe that is is caused by human activity, but still continue to consume as if it weren't true. They are also "part of the problem".

Normal human activity causes climate change whether those humans are Republicans or Democrats, socialists, communists, anarchists. Nobody's hands are clean in the developed world when it comes to climate change.

Only the conservative is to be helped? I repeat where was the republican establishment during katrina? They voted against helping If I had no compassion I would have been a conservative republican

who are rescuers are asking people if they are a liberal before they pull them out of the water or off of a rooftop? I doubt it.

For the sake of "progress".

Coastal east Texas is in deep serious. They will be years recovering.
The uncontrolled development (impervious surfaces) over the past decades (which Texas is ‘famous’ for...no zoning) has wiped out thousands of square miles (not acres, miles) of wetlands and prairie. And now the chickens have come home to roost.

Flooding only affects conservative Republicans. That's why I won't donate to any relief group. They don't deserve it















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this is not the only thing that will happen...watch ...maybe you will learn the scientist were correct not the conservative republican and when conservatives start caring about something besides themselves this will be a better nation

And your reply might have some meaning if I ever claimed they were right and we do not have climate issues

Since 1982, Houston has elected only Democratic mayors.

Aren't you just a peach.

recognition of the problem of the planet heating and how we can at least stop contributing to the problem but I guess the free market will fix it according to conservative agenda

Do tell...

Maybe instead of gazing at stars, you should take a good long look in the mirror or inside, if you could stand it.

That's 6 times the size of my small town.

Texas has many dispersed through the state, but it's been reported in the past the largest single concentration of those who fled Katrina ended up settling in Houston.

Lots of people want to talk about things they just don't fully understand. It causes confusion at times, I understand that. Houston took in around 200k evacuees from Katrina. Understandably a certain percentage decided to stay.

compassion (I suffered with 3 different types of cancer in the thyroid). exposed under 5 years of age and you dare talk to me about
compassion and the loss of my daughter for lack of medical care? As one con put it...let them die
Let me tell you I can stand it a lot better than you think...at least I've tried to help others and would even help anyone of any political
party but taking responsibility for enabling the problem seems to be difficult for cons

and even if it wasn't that's a terrible thing to say.

People have lost everything. Their homes are gone. Many have children and are now having to explain to their kid that their favorite stuffed animal is gone. They have to explain that their pet is gone. Homes full of memories; photographs, keep sakes, family heirlooms destroyed.

They vote differently and often completely wrong. Some of them harbor hate for those who are different. They may believe I am the spawn of Satan . Yet I do have sympathy for them because no one should have to suffer what they suffer.

I will fight them tooth and nail on policy, on their ideology, and against those they would vote into office. I will not wish them harm, tell them they deserve their fate or deny them compassion.

I find this notion of denying sympathy... this notion of deserved punishment for wrong think... horrible and so lacking in integrity.

punished-but wake up tp how you have contributed to the problem

But we're better than that. We all need to answer to ourselves at the end of the day.

deplorable.

There are many people, especially Democrats who are screwed right now, and need help. Do remember, it is not a north south divide, it is a rural city divide, and the cities got HIT. Or do you want to have the GOP try to gain at their expense?

To Texas' deep red Republican Panhandle and Permian basin, I'd say that you might have a point. But Harris County (part of greater Houston) does vote Democratic and helped Hillary come within 10 points of tying with Trump.

That's the problem with cursing your enemies: your aim has to be very precise.

I probably don't like them as people. I despise their politics. And mostly I am happy that I see the world like I do and not like they do. I am very glad I am how I ak, and not how they are.

But I have much empathy for them in this.

And I am glad that I do.

Congratulations.

The (D) in Houston and other places in Texas are Americans. And human.

The (R) in Houston and other places in Texas are Americans. And human.

Social groups are social groups because they look out for each other. So you find people from conservative areas here that would want to deport those here illegally rescuing them without comment, and people who look down on blacks because of their skin color rescuing them and getting them to shelters. You wind up with police pulling little kids, black, Latino, white, Asian out of water and Latinos doing the same. The assumption is that you don't know for sure who's an American, and beyond that they're people.

In Houston, for all the political divisions, racial divisions, class divisions, "human" counted for more with at least some people from each groups than (R) or (D) or AA or Latino or Vietnamese or Telugu or whatever other division. Nobody asked, first, "Are you gay?" before pulling people into a rescue boat.

You're human first, American second, and something else third. At least that's how I see myself, and in certain cases when some other "second rank" community is out to get me, "human" loses ground to the more important group membership under attack. But that's on them and their decision, mine's just a reaction.


As for "critical thinking," we may have different things in mind by the phrase, but here are (some of) the Texas science standards required to be taught in all public schools since 2010:

9th grade; Biology. In Biology, students conduct laboratory and field investigations, use scientific methods during investigations, and make informed decisions using critical thinking and scientific problem solving. Students in Biology study a variety of topics that include: structures and functions of cells and viruses; growth and development of organisms; cells, tissues, and organs; nucleic acids and genetics; biological evolution; taxonomy; metabolism and energy transfers in living organisms; living systems; homeostasis; and ecosystems and the environment.

The student uses critical thinking, scientific reasoning, and problem solving to make informed decisions within and outside the classroom. The student is expected to:
(A) in all fields of science, analyze, evaluate, and critique scientific explanations by using empirical evidence, logical reasoning, and experimental and observational testing, including examining all sides of scientific evidence of those scientific explanations, so as to encourage critical thinking by the student;

The language is similar in chemistry (10th grade), physics (usually 11th grade), environmental systems, astronomy, etc., etc. Oddly, the language is different in Earth/Space science, but the same ground's covered in other words. "Critically evaluate," I think. In at least three of the courses evolution must be taught. It's a pain to get kids to think critically because they have to know so much to start off with--critical thinking requires background knowledge--but it's part of the job.

And, of course, that doesn't include the AP or IB classes many schools offer. For that, there's the College Board site.

It's the same in the social studies standards and the English language arts standards. Haven't checked the math or other standards. If a teacher isn't teaching it, they're not doing what the State of Texas has said they are to be teaching and her administrator isn't doing *her* job.

Whether "our childrens is learning," well, that's a different matter.

I should have left the 600 or so people in the rising flood waters. Maybe they would have died, maybe not.


I don't say this often but......FUCK YOU.

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Regardless of a person's politics, or whether I agree with them or not, we all die the same.

Liberals in Texas were not magically spared the effects of this storm.

So if you have no empathy for conservatives, by that virtue you have no empathy for the liberals, either.

Sorry, that attitude just sucks. Just my two pennies' worth.

who posted here agree that the OP has a horrible attitude and seriously flawed logic.

Almost the inverse of what I've noticed from conservative forums. When disasters hit "blue states" these sorts of posts get the majority agreeing with a small minority pointing out how awful they are. I am glad we're not like as a whole. I know I would never want to be like them.