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fallout87

(819 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 12:42 AM Aug 2017

Berkeley Mayor Calls for Antifa to be Classified as Crime Gang After Clashes at Weekend Protest

Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin has called for authorities to tackle left-wing violence by classifying members of antifa, the loosely organized group of “anti-fascists” who believe that violence is acceptable in countering right-wing extremism, as a gang.

A largely peaceful demonstration in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Civic Center Park was disrupted Sunday by black-clad antifa counterprotesters, who jumped over police barriers and chased Trump supporters, according to multiple news reports.


The antifa seem to be drawing the kind of negative publicity we dont need.
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Berkeley Mayor Calls for Antifa to be Classified as Crime Gang After Clashes at Weekend Protest (Original Post) fallout87 Aug 2017 OP
So much for the RW smear against Berkeley's mayor that states he's a card carrying member of Antifa. jcmaine72 Aug 2017 #1
Yep. Need to distance from them. bluepen Aug 2017 #2
it is very important for democrats to strongly condemn antifa AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #3
Democrats should unequivocally condemn Antifa. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #4
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #5
Bullshit antiDemocratic propaganda Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #6
name one dem group or dem politician at a protest? The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #7
You are on the wrong forum is attacking Democrats is your thing Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #9
Many white Dems/libs spent far more time beating up on Hillary radius777 Aug 2017 #11
Ridiculous, white pacifism won't save PoC radius777 Aug 2017 #8
No shit, Sherlock. Of course they are violent. DetlefK Aug 2017 #10
Antifa needs to rebrand as a non violent group Not Ruth Aug 2017 #12
Time for the left to disavow Antifa and discourage them from showing up at protests. Oneironaut Aug 2017 #13

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
1. So much for the RW smear against Berkeley's mayor that states he's a card carrying member of Antifa.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 12:45 AM
Aug 2017

Do those people ever tire of being wrong? Do they even care?

bluepen

(620 posts)
2. Yep. Need to distance from them.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 12:45 AM
Aug 2017

"Pelosi Statement Condemning Antifa Violence in Berkeley"

https://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/82917/

"The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted."

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
3. it is very important for democrats to strongly condemn antifa
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:31 AM
Aug 2017

Antifa should never be associated with Dem prty, they have nothing to do with it. That movement functions outside of legal system so they don't need any support. Even if you feel sympathetic to their cause, simply condemn them once and for all. Again, they don't need nor care about anyone's support; it's a movement of its own. And by the way, condemning them does not mean equating them to nazis. Antifa will never listen to politicians so don't ever count on them not showing up at neo nazi rallies.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
4. Democrats should unequivocally condemn Antifa.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:35 AM
Aug 2017

Their violent ideology is antithetical to liberalism.

We should drive them away and instance ourselves from them in the strongest terms.

Response to fallout87 (Original post)

radius777

(3,635 posts)
11. Many white Dems/libs spent far more time beating up on Hillary
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:42 AM
Aug 2017

(who was overwhelmingly the choice of PoC) than they did Trump, allowing a man and a movement to gain power and become a clear and present danger to PoC and others.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
8. Ridiculous, white pacifism won't save PoC
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:03 AM
Aug 2017

and others targeted by the ethnoterrorism of the alt-right. Neither will the right-wing police, who often look the other way.

I'm a mainstream Dem and don't agree w/the initiation of violence, but as far as Antifa (and others) actively stand and defend vulnerable groups against fascism - that is a noble cause.

Note, that the right/alt-right goes crazy about Antifa (while remaining silent on the true terrorist alt-right) because they know it is the only thing standing against them.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
10. No shit, Sherlock. Of course they are violent.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:38 AM
Aug 2017

Just look to Europe. They looted and burned down a part of Hamburg! Organized street-warfare against cops! All in the name of protesting NATO or the G20 or whatever excuse they can come up with.
And when all was said and done, a lawyer of the Antifa said that they had burned down the wrong city-block. They should have burned down the block where rich people live.



I have noticed for a long time that DU has a tendency to ignore violence coming from the left, because the left are defined as the good guys.

That's how we end up with ignoring the violent shit the Antifa is pulling in Europe.

That's how we end up celebrating the brutal socialist dictator Gaddafi. (How bad can a brutal dictator be if he's a Socialist???)

Oneironaut

(5,530 posts)
13. Time for the left to disavow Antifa and discourage them from showing up at protests.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:49 AM
Aug 2017

All they want is trouble. They want to break things, steal, and attack others. 99% of the country sees that, shakes their head, and is discouraged from showing up to protest.

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