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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:46 PM Aug 2017

Feinstein clarifies after Trump remarks earn jeers

I know this isn't the bastion of journalistic integrity that "The Hill" apparently is, but I think that we can agree that CNN isn't misrepresenting what she said in their headline.


A day after she was jeered at a town hall for suggesting President Donald Trump could become a "good president" if he would "change," Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein issued a statement saying she is "under no illusion" he will.

"Look, this man is going to be President most likely for the rest of this term," Feinstein said Tuesday at the town hall meeting at San Francisco's Commonwealth Club. "I just hope he has the ability to learn and to change and if he does he can be a good president. And that's my hope."
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Her comment drew a quick negative reaction from some audience members. In a video of the event, posted on the San Francisco Chronicle's website, she is seen reassuring them.

"Yeah, I understand how you feel. I understand how you feel," she s
In her statement Wednesday, Feinstein said she hoped Trump would work to unite the country.

"The duty of the American president is to bring people together, not cater to one segment of a political base; to solve problems, not campaign constantly. While I'm under no illusion that it's likely to happen and will continue to oppose his policies, I want President Trump to change for the good of the country," she said.

Feinstein's statement stressed that she has stood up against many of the controversial things Trump has said and done.

"During this tumultuous time, I'm working to protect the progress we've made and find a way to get things done for Californians during a period of total Republican control of Washington. I've been strongly critical of President Trump when I disagree on policy and with his behavior," she said. "Most recently, I was appalled by his comments in response to Charlottesville and the pardon of Sheriff Joe Arpaio. President Trump said that there were 'very fine people' in a crowd chanting 'Jews will not replace us.' There's nothing 'fine' about white supremacists, Nazis or the KKK."



http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/politics/dianne-feinstein-donald-trump-president/index.html
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Feinstein clarifies after Trump remarks earn jeers (Original Post) ehrnst Aug 2017 OP
I like Feinstein but what was she thinking tymorial Aug 2017 #1
I guess being human extends to Senators and those ehrnst Aug 2017 #6
No you misunderstand tymorial Aug 2017 #7
I think that even seasoned - as so many have pointed out - ehrnst Aug 2017 #12
For God's sake, it was a faux pas that someone of her experience should know not to step into. brush Sep 2017 #31
I think it's being seized on very much because she's older, and a woman ehrnst Sep 2017 #32
Does it really have anything to do with her being a woman or older? Not IMO. brush Sep 2017 #33
IMHO, in large part. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #36
What does her being a woman or older have to do with her making a not well thought out statement? brush Sep 2017 #37
I'm talking about the outsized reaction to it. When a male progressive Senator ehrnst Sep 2017 #39
Fair enough. Sanders is sainted around here though so all you get is crickets when he _ _ _ _ _ up brush Sep 2017 #41
Hopefully that ends the bullshit attacks Dianne Feinstein has come under on DU today. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #2
Well, she is an older woman, who is therefore ehrnst Aug 2017 #13
Sorry Butterflylady Aug 2017 #3
Well, you're free to cast your vote for her opponent if you are in California. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #5
I agree rockfordfile Aug 2017 #9
Thank you Senator. riversedge Aug 2017 #4
How many Democrats does it take to change a lightbulb? Eko Aug 2017 #8
She needs to retire JI7 Aug 2017 #10
+100 n/t billh58 Sep 2017 #34
So should anyone who says "Trump is honest and I look forward to working with him." ehrnst Sep 2017 #40
former Mayor Bloomberg said something similar and he also delisen Aug 2017 #11
I intend to work hard getting the fine Democratic leader, Sen. Feinstein re-elected Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #14
I still want to know what transpired at that Golden Raisin Aug 2017 #15
+1 Nevernose Aug 2017 #16
And wasn't Grassley so shook up he let Feinstein do the talking? dflprincess Aug 2017 #22
Weak sauce; weak sister. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #17
At this point there is no reason to hold out hope for Trump edhopper Aug 2017 #18
She's a politician. A SMART one Nevernose Aug 2017 #19
Anybody who thinks that asshole is going to change for the better is a fucking idiot. A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2017 #20
Not getting the irony even after she explains it? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #23
She is milquetoast who we would not even be talking about today A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2017 #24
She sits on two commissions investigating him leftstreet Aug 2017 #21
+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #25
What you said. eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #26
I can only wish that the Senator was more The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #27
I think the term is tone deaf. jalan48 Sep 2017 #28
Damn, it's going to be a long couple of years defacto7 Sep 2017 #29
She's playing it both zentrum Sep 2017 #30
She has a history of billh58 Sep 2017 #35
Yes. California zentrum Sep 2017 #38

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
1. I like Feinstein but what was she thinking
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:48 PM
Aug 2017

Clarifications aside, she should have known better than to make a statement that was bound to piss off more than half the country

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
6. I guess being human extends to Senators and those
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:48 PM
Aug 2017

who are ready to get pissed off at anything that confirms their bias.

God forbid she clarify when people misunderstand, or simply pile on.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
7. No you misunderstand
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:53 PM
Aug 2017

I can't imagine why she made the statement in the first place. I understand the clarification. I am just surprised a seasoned politician would say something that was guaranteed to upset so many in the first place.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. I think that even seasoned - as so many have pointed out -
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:10 PM
Aug 2017

politicians are human.

I think she was being ironic, and it was lost on a lot of people in a very emotional climate.

She could be called out for not predicting that older women in politics are particular targets, sure.

brush

(53,922 posts)
31. For God's sake, it was a faux pas that someone of her experience should know not to step into.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 01:28 AM
Sep 2017

And we've seen enough of trump to know he's not changing and won't get any fucking better.

Why doesn't she see that?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
32. I think it's being seized on very much because she's older, and a woman
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:12 AM
Sep 2017

Other Pols don't have much to lose piling on to get their own name in the media, because she's at the end of her career.

And the piling on of older women politicians is very much a trend.

brush

(53,922 posts)
33. Does it really have anything to do with her being a woman or older? Not IMO.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:36 PM
Sep 2017

Last edited Fri Sep 1, 2017, 06:06 PM - Edit history (1)

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

— Maya Angelou

We know who trump is.

brush

(53,922 posts)
37. What does her being a woman or older have to do with her making a not well thought out statement?
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 06:48 PM
Sep 2017
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
39. I'm talking about the outsized reaction to it. When a male progressive Senator
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 07:55 AM
Sep 2017

states that he is "looking forward to to working" with Trump, there is no such feeding frenzy, or asking if he's crazy.

Mr. Trump said that Wall Street is dangerous, doing bad things, he wants to re-establish Glass-Steagall legislation. I look forward to working with him.

Mr. Trump has said he wants six weeks of paid maternity leave. Every other major country on Earth, I think, has at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave, but this is a start. We look forward to working with him if he is honest about that.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/bernie-sanders-donald-trump/508007/

So, using the rules that apply to Feinstein, Sanders was saying that "Trump is honest, and I look forward to listening to him."

Is that clearer?

brush

(53,922 posts)
41. Fair enough. Sanders is sainted around here though so all you get is crickets when he _ _ _ _ _ up
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 10:39 AM
Sep 2017
 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
2. Hopefully that ends the bullshit attacks Dianne Feinstein has come under on DU today.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:50 PM
Aug 2017

Sheez. I thought this was a forum for people who support Democrats.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. Well, she is an older woman, who is therefore
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:12 PM
Aug 2017

"Establishment" in the very most awful worstest way. so while I was disgusted, I was not shocked.

Eko

(7,369 posts)
8. How many Democrats does it take to change a lightbulb?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:56 PM
Aug 2017

Two, one to put the bulb in and the other to primary the first one for either turning the bulb too fast to the left or too slow.

delisen

(6,046 posts)
11. former Mayor Bloomberg said something similar and he also
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:07 PM
Aug 2017

had the guts to call Trump a con man.

I think both Bloomberg and Feinstein are patriots. They would prefer he succeed for the good of the country.

Neither of them have illusions about his unfitness for office or his character or the character of the government he has assembled.

I think Bloomberg had also spoken about his worry that the Democratic Party would not be able to unify.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
14. I intend to work hard getting the fine Democratic leader, Sen. Feinstein re-elected
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:13 PM
Aug 2017

to the Senate.

In these trouble times I can't think of anyone with the maturity and wisdom to represent the people of California more ably than our senior Senator.

Who gets blashed tomorrow on "Democratic" Underground?

Bad time for this sort of divisionism folks.

Golden Raisin

(4,614 posts)
15. I still want to know what transpired at that
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:42 PM
Aug 2017

Comey meeting in March when Feinstein and Grassley came out looking green, grim, silent and as if they had been hit in the head with a baseball bat.

dflprincess

(28,086 posts)
22. And wasn't Grassley so shook up he let Feinstein do the talking?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:40 PM
Aug 2017

I've been inclined to think they were told that it wasn't just "interference" and hacking the DNC's computers but that the vote totals were manipulated. But "for the good of the country" than information must remain classified.

edhopper

(33,638 posts)
18. At this point there is no reason to hold out hope for Trump
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:53 PM
Aug 2017

As Hilary said, this is who he is and the ONLY response is to say we will oppose him in any way we can.
Not accept we have to live with it.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
19. She's a politician. A SMART one
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:22 PM
Aug 2017

And that's what they do: say nothing bad about people, and say polite things. She's not in my top half of favorite politicians, but she's got political instincts as good as they come and I can't deny that. Feinstein didn't even do that with Trump. She said she "hopes he has the ability to learn and change" and then reemphasized "hope."

That means she was saying he does NOT have the ability to learn, change, or be a good president. It was a sideways insult. She just chose the wrong audience.

Politically, what does she have to gain from talking shit publicly about Trump? Nothing.
She will eventually (hopefully) need to deal with her Republican colleagues; either our political climate will get sorted out soon or our republic will collapse.
Trump might want Democratic support on an infrastructure bill (not likely, but not impossible). Talking shit about Trump won't help with that.
It won't help change the opinion of the ignorant or on the fence voters, who want to see something more from politicians than anger (either against Trump or on his behalf).
There are plenty of people marching and expressing their anger, both on the streets and on the TV; her voice isn't needed for that.
The House has to vote for impeachment, so Feinstein talking shit about Trump isn't going to convince Ryan's bunch to do the right thing -- that'll have to come from House Dems and aisle-crossing Republicans.
It won't help the 2018 election, because everyone over the age of four has already made up their mind about President Dipshit.

So, again: she didn't say what we wanted to hear, but she said the politically smart thing.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
20. Anybody who thinks that asshole is going to change for the better is a fucking idiot.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:47 PM
Aug 2017

And any idiot who wants him to "succeed" with his evil agenda is a fucking asshole.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
24. She is milquetoast who we would not even be talking about today
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:50 AM
Sep 2017

Last edited Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:10 AM - Edit history (1)

if she had not been sitting there when Moscone and Milk were assassinated. What irony? Her response to the reaction to her idiotic statement is even more weak and timid and stupid that her original statement.... P.S. Not mad at you ehrnst, mad at her and anybody who tries to softsoap me about that demonic entity.

leftstreet

(36,117 posts)
21. She sits on two commissions investigating him
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:06 PM
Aug 2017

Investigations her constituents believe may/may not lead to his impeachment

Stating that he's probably not going anywhere for 4 years is completely inappropriate

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
30. She's playing it both
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 01:27 AM
Sep 2017

...ways to mop up.

He's systematically destroying our DOJ, our Dept. of Education, destroying the lives of DACA people, withdrew from Climate accords---he demonstrates every day that he's incapable of learning. It's TOO LATE to become a "good President"---he's already hurt us too much. How can a Pussy-grabbing liar ever be spoken of this way by a Democrat?

Her comments are stunningly tone-deaf. Please let this not be the stance of the Democratic leadership.

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