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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it possible that Mueller is egging Trump on, by being so aggressive?
I'm wondering if Mueller is intentionally being higher profile and more aggressive of late, in a bid to get Trump to make a move to quash the investigation? Or do something stupid in desperation? Or maybe just in a hurry, to get it done before Trump hits the nuke buttons?
Where are the leaks about the investigation coming from? There weren't any not too long ago. And now the leaks of the investigation are spilling forth like water. Or maybe just the intensity level of the investigation has risen so much that it can't help but get out.
MLAA
(17,298 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)I don't think there are intentional leaks - Mueller's operations are pretty leakproof - but when you start initiating certain legal procedures, things end up on file with a court somewhere and eventually become public. Leaks could be coming from the Senate and House committees as well, since Mueller seems to be sharing information with them. Mueller is just going to do whatever needs to be done, regardless of who knows about it.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Warpy
(111,274 posts)because the more pressure he applies, the worse Asshole is going to get and the sooner we'll get rid of him.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Stuart G
(38,434 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The Trump core team didn't tell Pence things. Trump hadn't even known Pence before he named him VP.
Stuart G
(38,434 posts)I wish I had a link, but I don't...but it said that the money connections on Pence are also Russian. of course they are not that obvious..but are clear if one looks deeply enough..
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)brush
(53,787 posts)It came out that he did know Flynn was lying.
Pence is dirty too.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)The full relationship between Mike Pence and Paul Manafort is unclear, but there is one. The Daily Beast reported in November 2016 that Paul Manafort and Mike Pence were on the phone regularly. With Paul Manafort under increasing scrutiny, the Senate Intelligence Committee will uncover the details his relationship to Mike Pence during their investigation.
http://www.inquisitr.com/4104854/trump-russia-vp-mike-pences-relationship-with-paul-manafort/
defacto7
(13,485 posts)to egg anything on. He's just moving forward.
Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)☺ the debates... A work if art. I remember them so fondly.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:54 AM - Edit history (1)
Regularly incriminates himself when under scrutiny.
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)that the independent investigator being a true professional will drive a mental basket-case into "crazy country!"
There is NO WAY that the "F**king Idiot" in the White House is going to out-smart Mueller.
Muller knows the law.
Trump knows shit!
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Oh, you betcha. Trump's a Pavlov Dog. It is so ridiculously easy to push his buttons.
We all really need to watch "Tombstone" again, and I say that as someone who has seen it (conservative estimate here) maybe 50 times since its theatrical release. It's one of the single greatest parables of how the real world works that I have ever seen.
Trump is Johnny Ringo. He agrees to meet Wyatt Earp to "finish it," because he is 100% confident that he can "finish" Wyatt Earp. Doc Holliday gets there before Earp. Ringo chokes a little and said that he has no beef with Holliday. Holliday responds "I beg to differ, sir, we started a game that we never finished." Ringo, still cocky and arrogant, says "Well, OK, Lunger." and a couple of minutes later he's been finished by Holliday.
See, Trump sized up the lay of the land and told himself that he could beat anything thrown at him. What he didn't count on...to steal another line from "Tombstone"...was that Mueller was coming, and he was bringing Hell with him.
There's that as well, and when you think about it, the majority of what we actually know about it is the staffing of Mueller's team and their areas of expertise. Additionally, there is no way in Hell that Mueller is going to "team up with the IRS" and keep that under the radar.
kentuck
(111,103 posts)...is going to help him? They have been "covering" for Trump for thirty years or so. What would they have now that they haven't had in the past?
It's a tricky situation, I think.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)The only way I can see that they can "help" Mueller is to open the books on Trump.
Problem is, the only thing that exists on Trump's tax returns is information provided by Trump, and if they DO audit him, he's notorious for cooking the books and saying "I lost those records."
kentuck
(111,103 posts)Any ill-begotten gains could be put into an overseas account.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)conducting an investigation into money-laundering, perjury, treason, illegal receiving of foreign donations to the Trump campaign, etc.
He's not got the time for gamesmanship.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)We don't even know who they all are. But all the press has to do is sit in front of the courthouse and see who goes in or out. The witnesses aren't supposed to say anything, but they can learn a lot just from the questions being posed. So I think a lot of the leaks are coming from those witnesses.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)*Sometimes not until proceedings conclude.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I'm not hearing that.
kentuck
(111,103 posts)...that he was somewhat rushing him into making a premature decision?
JI7
(89,252 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)But I suspect he's leaning HARD on manafort to get him to flip. It's either going to be flip or prison.