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Does Tim Ryan (D-OH) deserve a Democratic primary challenge for his support for corporate tax cuts? (Original Post) nkpolitics1212 Aug 2017 OP
Depends. Is he for a corporate tax floor? ImpeachTheGOP Aug 2017 #1
Yes Me. Aug 2017 #2
He also wants to get rid of Nancy Pelosi so he WhiteTara Aug 2017 #3
Not for that alone. And it would depend on what kind of a district he's in. pnwmom Aug 2017 #4
OH-13 is a +7D district. nkpolitics1212 Aug 2017 #5
Yes shanny Sep 2017 #6
No. The Dem party in Ohio has been decimated and he is one that has survived. OhioBlue Sep 2017 #7
depends on the district he is in and why they are supporting him JI7 Sep 2017 #8
Is he planning or being lobbied to switch parties? delisen Sep 2017 #9
That's the kind of stuff you do when you have a majority Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #10
Maybe every Dem does. Orsino Sep 2017 #11
Do you have a link to that? kentuck Sep 2017 #12
Sometimes you can't think of D vs. R as black and white contrasted. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #13
 

ImpeachTheGOP

(89 posts)
1. Depends. Is he for a corporate tax floor?
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 10:31 PM
Aug 2017

I wouldn't mind bringing some rates down as long as there is a 15% minimum. A lot of these companies pay nothing at all and get huge refunds.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
4. Not for that alone. And it would depend on what kind of a district he's in.
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 11:31 PM
Aug 2017

If he's in a purple or red district it would be stupid to primary him solely over that.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
7. No. The Dem party in Ohio has been decimated and he is one that has survived.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:39 AM
Sep 2017

He is helping Dem candidates in purple/red congressional districts. I don't agree with his recent announcement on corporate tax cuts, but I also appreciate what he does to build the party and help candidates.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
9. Is he planning or being lobbied to switch parties?
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 05:29 AM
Sep 2017

Republicans have a history of of recruiting certain democrats-particularly those who are conservative and who also are not strong on civil and human rights.

If he is weak on human and civil rights he may be planning to become Republican anyway.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
10. That's the kind of stuff you do when you have a majority
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 06:14 AM
Sep 2017

Money, time and effort spent on that now would be far better off spent to flip a nearby red district.

Primarying a Democrat when we are the minority party in that body is idiocy.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. Maybe every Dem does.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:03 AM
Sep 2017

Not challenging incumbents is how we end up with stupid stories about how the Democratic Party has only elderly household names to run for president. Don't neglect the bench.

Ryan is a great place to start. Fuck his tax-cut agenda..

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
13. Sometimes you can't think of D vs. R as black and white contrasted.
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 12:11 PM
Sep 2017

Could a democrat with a platform more inline with the national party's stances beat Tim Ryan in a primary? Maybe.
Could that same democrat beat the republican in the actual election? Not in Ohio.

He's in an area representing constituents that voted for him, HIS platform, and what he said he would (and wouldn't) do. They did not necessarily vote for him because of the national "democratic mainstream" platform. And if he gets into office based on certain voter expectations and delivers a different product than they wanted then he won't last long.

IMO, a senators or representatives PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY should be voting for what the local constituents expected of them based on their campaign platform and promises. This includes being a voice for their constituents that my not agree with their OWN personal beliefs (ie: personal immigration or reproductive rights beliefs versus what their represented people actually want).

Secondarily, a senator or representative should be concerned with caucusing with their affiliated party and ensuring their affiliated party controls the majority of the chamber.

I think a lot of liberal democrats (no offense intended) that have never lived in or spent significant time in flyover states or swing states don't realize this.

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