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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums5.6 earthquake, 10km deep, recorded in North Korea...Did they just conduct a Nuclear Test?
In meantime, while Twitler is tweeting about election results..
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Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)Nothing to worry since we have the Rational, compassionate one with our Nuke Codes.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)But it being bs is the best hope.. would be nice to have Clinton as POTUS.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)at night...
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)or Palin
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-quake-china/china-earthquake-administration-detects-suspected-explosion-in-north-korea-idUSKCN1BE048
BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinas Earthquake Administration said on Sunday it detected a 6.3 magnitude earthquake in North Korea that was a suspected explosion.
The administration said in a statement on its website that the quake, which occurred around 11:30 a.m. (11.30 p.m. ET), was recorded at a depth of zero meters.
politicat
(9,808 posts)That's expected. Readings take a bit of time. Follow @mhanham and @ArmsControlWonk
China, Republic of Korea and Japan seem to concur.
Given that it was at exactly noon, DPRK time... Yeah, it's what we think it is.
Dear Jim Mattis and John Kelly -- now is the time to be the warrior monks. Flush the goddam phone and duct tape him to a chair.
benld74
(9,909 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,879 posts)or a made for TV disaster flick, nukes are simply not that powerful.
greyl
(22,990 posts)A Nuke, Not a Quake
January 6, 2016
North Korea is currently the only country in the world which conducts nuclear weapons tests.
http://seismo.berkeley.edu/blog/2016/01/06/a-nuke-not-a-quake.html
whopis01
(3,522 posts)The seismic activity from a nuclear detonation is often the first indicator of such a test.
Given the increased strength of this one (6.3 when previous nuclear earthquakes in NK never topped 5), it looks like this may have been a hydrogen bomb.
Warpy
(111,329 posts)and they're calling it an explosion.
Looks like they finally got one to work, and work well. Best case scenario: it worked too well and wiped out the whole facility.
longship
(40,416 posts)One wonders if any seismic experts will validate that this is a nuclear detonation.
Somebody call CalTech and ask them.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)at some point if a guy says he wants to destroy your country and is working at breakneck speed to make it a reality, you have to defend yourself.
longship
(40,416 posts)I think he barely has a fission bomb, and maybe this is the first clear evidence of it, if somebody can validate that the seismic evidence has the requisite nuclear detonation signature.
A bombs are difficult enough. H bombs are entirely different. There is no way Kim goes from crude fission bomb to fusion bomb in such a short time.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)plus, a 6.3 earthquake speaks for itself.
longship
(40,416 posts)No hair on fire here yet.
Fusion bombs are monumentally complex and difficult. Fission bombs are bad enough.
Nothing I have seen of DPRK in the past couple years indicate to me that they are a nuclear threat. Today's data is worrisome, but it is a fucking far reach between fission device to fusion device. And the evidence for a DPRK fission device is really, really shitty, until possibly this. It took USA and USSR years to develop fusion weapons. It's just not something you make with Lego bricks. And knowing how is not much help. It's really, really difficult.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Putin? I doubt it.
China? No fucking way!!!
Ukraine has no nukes.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)No peace for the wicked as the saying goes ...
AJT
(5,240 posts)"A seismic tremor detected at 12:36 p.m., emanating from the Punggye-ri underground nuclear test in northwestern North Korea, set off a scramble to determine whether the North had carried out another test. The Souths military soon confirmed that it had."
applegrove
(118,759 posts)Or something to that effect. That went over well with Kim Jong Un.
BigmanPigman
(51,624 posts)on the Richter Scales. No radioactive material was released. It was hydrogen and now N Korea can make bombs with materials that they have in their country already.
caduceus111
(132 posts)Shaking intensity matters little in the situation of a recorded explosion. It's the total energy output that really matters.
An increase of 1 magnitude corresponds to a release of energy 31.6 times than that released by the lesser earthquake. This means that, for instance, an earthquake of magnitude 6.3 releases 31.6 times as much energy as an earthquake of magnitude 5.3.
You are right, this is likely hydrogen. This event is consistent with a megaton scale detonation.
Also, we don't use the Richter Scale anymore. That was phased out in the 1970s.
1 megaton blast radius:
C Moon
(12,221 posts)selling nukes to the best offer.