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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:23 PM Sep 2017

The Martyring of Colin Kaepernick

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/03/colin-kaepernick-nfl-martyr-215572

The Martyring of Colin Kaepernick

How the NFL botched the quarterback’s protest and guaranteed the controversy will live on, whether he plays or not.

By BEN STRAUSS

September 03, 2017


On the afternoon of June 23, a civil rights activist sent an email directly to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, hoping to save the league from making a colossal PR blunder.

Dr. Harry Edwards, a trained sociologist, had been an adviser to sprinters John Carlos and Tommie Smith when they raised their fists on the medal podium at the 1968 Olympics. Last year, he was a regular sounding board for Colin Kaepernick when the then-San Francisco 49ers quarterback began to kneel for the national anthem to protest racial inequality and conservative pundits like Tomi Lahren raked him as a “whiny, indulgent, attention-seeking cry baby." Now with a new season fast approaching, Kaepernick was still unsigned, even as scrap heap players who couldn’t match the record of a one-time Super Bowl quarterback were getting precious roster spots. Reporters had begun to openly suggest Kaepernick, good enough to sign a $127 million contract in 2014, was being blackballed—retaliation by a famously autocratic organization against a player who had dared to embarrass it.

But Edwards saw the Kaepernick saga in a larger and more politically fraught context. He saw a mixed-race player who challenged a league in which some 70 percent of the athletes are African-American and all but one owner and more than 80 percent of the fans are white. Edwards also saw an increasingly divided country led by a president who seemed to relish stoking racial tensions. If the NFL could not find a way to put Kaepernick on a roster, Edwards reasoned, the league risked turning a workplace dispute into a full-blown and far more embarrassing racial controversy. In his email to Goodell, which he shared with POLITICO, Edwards spelled it out as clearly as he could: “DON'T MAKE HIM A MARTYR!”

And that’s exactly what happened. With the regular season scheduled to start in four days, Kaepernick remains unsigned. Nefarious or not, the league’s collective refusal to put Kaepernick on the field has backfired. After Charlottesville, what had been a steady drip of news inside the sports section became a front-page cause with national ramifications, and Kaepernick became the silent symbol of a sideline protest movement that has grown far beyond the league's ability to contain it. A dozen Cleveland Browns players, white and black, knelt in a circle before one game; Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett told Jake Tapper on CNN that he would protest during the national anthem indefinitely. The NAACP sent a letter to Goodell demanding new protections for outspoken athletes like Kaepernick. More than 1,000 protesters gathered in New York outside the NFL’s Park Avenue headquarters in support of the unemployed quarterback.

“For nearly a year, here was Colin Kaepernick talking about racism and inequality,” Edwards said. “It was like the mask was pulled off at Charlottesville. People watched and thought, ‘My god, Kaepernick’s right.’”


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The Martyring of Colin Kaepernick (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2017 OP
"Martyr" is a bit extreme Loki Liesmith Sep 2017 #1
I lost all sympathy for him when I learned he couldn't be bothered to vote. cwydro Sep 2017 #2
He did equate Hillary with Dump SHRED Sep 2017 #5
But you don't think nonvoters should lose their jobs, right? leftstreet Sep 2017 #6
Of course not. cwydro Sep 2017 #8
Well, that depends Lurker Deluxe Sep 2017 #44
He chose not to register or vote in 2012 Not Ruth Sep 2017 #9
Kaepernick was also a victim of bad timing no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #3
They put physical abusers on the field SHRED Sep 2017 #4
+++++++++++ HAB911 Sep 2017 #17
Young and naive, but very courageous nolabels Sep 2017 #7
The argument about Kaepernick being blackballed kind of falls apart mythology Sep 2017 #10
Ryan Mallett.... RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #11
Denver is paying 750k for Osweiler rufus dog Sep 2017 #14
Uhhhhhh RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #18
(Genuinely) Friendly advice GaryCnf Sep 2017 #22
LOL...ok RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #38
Yea, your point was valid GaryCnf Sep 2017 #45
Cleveland cut Osweiler Wiseman32218 Sep 2017 #23
That really makes it even more funny RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #39
better to keep your mouth shut rufus dog Sep 2017 #24
Yeah, I was wrong, but that all happened in the last twenty four hours. And it proves my point RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #41
No I don't rufus dog Sep 2017 #42
Colin fallout87 Sep 2017 #43
I guess Cleveland is still paying him 15.2 million JDC Sep 2017 #27
True...but all of those guys are can run a conventional NFL offense. PragmaticLiberal Sep 2017 #25
Mallett and Osweiler are typical NFL qbs sharedvalues Sep 2017 #33
And neither have guided a team to the Super Bowl. RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #40
Exactly. cwydro Sep 2017 #12
he was a mediocre student, but he did 'earn' a degree from University of Nevada, Reno Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #13
Huh! I didn't know that about him. cwydro Sep 2017 #16
It is a business decision, like it or not rufus dog Sep 2017 #15
Ann Killion, sports writer for the SF Chronicle, was using the word regression.... Brother Buzz Sep 2017 #21
This Ann Killion GaryCnf Sep 2017 #26
It was sad to watch. rufus dog Sep 2017 #34
Colin Kaepernick GaryCnf Sep 2017 #19
Nah. cwydro Sep 2017 #20
He'd make first back up on most teams YCHDT Sep 2017 #28
Posters who know football? GaryCnf Sep 2017 #29
Ok, he's a hero to you. cwydro Sep 2017 #30
It's both sharedvalues Sep 2017 #32
I'll agree with that. cwydro Sep 2017 #35
Good for those that will carry on Lotusflower70 Sep 2017 #31
I think I need to leave DU for a good long while... vi5 Sep 2017 #36
A true - red, white & blue - hero laserhaas Sep 2017 #37
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. I lost all sympathy for him when I learned he couldn't be bothered to vote.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:27 PM
Sep 2017

Hope Trump is working out nicely for him.

leftstreet

(36,111 posts)
6. But you don't think nonvoters should lose their jobs, right?
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:48 PM
Sep 2017

There's an issue here that has nothing to do with voting

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. Of course not.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:54 PM
Sep 2017

I said I had no sympathy for him. I simply have no patience for people who couldn't be bothered to vote while all the time trying to make themselves into some kind of popular hero.

If he were a better player, he'd be snapped up right away. He's a has-been, not a martyr.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,038 posts)
44. Well, that depends
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 02:24 AM
Sep 2017

If you are a non voter who knows they are not really really good at their job and may have a hard time finding work and they quit (opt out) of a deal that would have kept them employed for another year ...

He did not lose his job ... he quit his job.

no_hypocrisy

(46,158 posts)
3. Kaepernick was also a victim of bad timing
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:30 PM
Sep 2017

With Trump and MAGA, Kaepernick was as radioactive as if he burned the American flag on the 50-yard line. Trump would have incorporated this situation to advance him and his policies if the NFL had been reasonable and logical and adopted a different response. If Obama had still been in the WH, I doubt we'd be having this conversation.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
7. Young and naive, but very courageous
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 01:50 PM
Sep 2017

The NFL is a league made of bullies and want-to-be-bullies. On what level would one think protesting anything would make them or anyone watching want to change?

We all give up a lot to live in the world we are living in today (and probably render our species and lots of others extinct because of it).

Who you going to fight, city hall?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
10. The argument about Kaepernick being blackballed kind of falls apart
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 02:28 PM
Sep 2017

when you consider all the other players protesting. Kaepernick isn't on a roster for the same reason Robert Griffin and Tim Tebow aren't. He isn't good enough. He's at best a mediocre quarterback who can't read the field properly before trying to run. That makes him a backup quarterback at best. But in addition to then having to revamp your offense for him (cutting down on his reads, changing how offensive linemen block, what plays you can call), you have to deal with all the attention. For a backup, that's more than a team would want to deal with.

There are some teams where he would be a better fit, Seattle, Buffalo and Carolina all come to mind for having quarterbacks prone to running, but Seattle and Carolina have dealt with injuries to their quarterbacks for running and are trying to rein that in. And Buffalo has their own quarterback issues to sort out in terms of determining if Taylor is good enough, you don't need a potential quarterback controversy.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
11. Ryan Mallett....
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 02:50 PM
Sep 2017

.....Scott Tolzien.....Brock Osweiller.....Geno Smith

There are some bad QB's out there.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
14. Denver is paying 750k for Osweiler
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 03:20 PM
Sep 2017

1. He know the offense already
2. He is friends with Elway's son
3. He costs 750k!

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
18. Uhhhhhh
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 03:40 PM
Sep 2017

He makes 16 million and plays for Cleveland now. After bombing out as a FA with Houston.

Did you know Dan Marino retired?

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
38. LOL...ok
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 11:51 PM
Sep 2017

I didn't realize that all happened in the last 23 hours.

Which still proves my point.....a guy signed as a free agent for big money, failed, was traded, then released before the season started and now back with his old team was getting 16 million dollars for what?

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
39. That really makes it even more funny
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 11:52 PM
Sep 2017

He sucks, yet was considered the big FA move of the year last season. He's now on his third team in a year.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
24. better to keep your mouth shut
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 04:50 PM
Sep 2017

.....

Go do some homework and you come off a bit better, maybe a bit less like a tRump supporter.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
41. Yeah, I was wrong, but that all happened in the last twenty four hours. And it proves my point
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 11:59 PM
Sep 2017

Pretty amazing for a guy who was the top FA quarterback one year ago and is now on his third team in six months, but Cap can't get a sniff, don't you agree?

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
42. No I don't
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 12:46 AM
Sep 2017

Brock is a better fit for the Broncos

Would Kap be happy with 750k?

Brock screwed up and left the Broncos, now they are giving him a second chance do you think he will have the potential to be a bit more humble?

Brock and Elway's kid roomed together in college, so I would guess there was some backdoor negotiations and assessments going on. Something they wouldn't be able to do with Kap.

Brock already knows the basic Bronco offense.

Look I went to ASU (Brock's college team) and have always been a 49er fan so I am partial to both guys, but if I am in the Denver front office I take Brock every time.

As for the other teams, there just isn't a big enough upside to take the heat for signing Kap. Now some team might get lucky but it is more likely they will just take the heat.

And finally, I don't disagree with Kaps actions. I hope we have a boatload of players kneeling during week one.

In a bit of interesting trivia, the best throw I ever saw was in Sun Devils stadium, 1982, Elway scrambles and throws a ball diagonally across the field from the 45 to the end zone - ACROSS THE FIELD - on a line.

JDC

(10,130 posts)
27. I guess Cleveland is still paying him 15.2 million
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 05:10 PM
Sep 2017

But he'll be playing in Denver. At least suiting up there...

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
33. Mallett and Osweiler are typical NFL qbs
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 05:45 PM
Sep 2017

Mallet and Osweiler can run an NFL level pass first multi read offense. Poorly, but they don't require remaking the offense into run first.

Geno Smith I have no idea about. He's younget than Kaep so maybe has some chance to improve?

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
40. And neither have guided a team to the Super Bowl.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 11:57 PM
Sep 2017

I know the Broncos did well in 2015 but eventually Osweiler got replaced by a faded legend who couldn't move.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
12. Exactly.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 02:57 PM
Sep 2017

This thread isn't even getting much traction here on DU, where he was hailed as a hero last year. No one cares about him. He's yesterday's news.

I don't mind kicking the thread because I think it's a good article that the OP posted, but he'll be forgotten soon. Hope he can find another job. Did he even go to college?

Brother Buzz

(36,456 posts)
13. he was a mediocre student, but he did 'earn' a degree from University of Nevada, Reno
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 03:13 PM
Sep 2017

There's some speculation Kaepernick, who was once drafted by the Cubs, may do a Tim Tebow and peruse a baseball career as a pitcher; he DOES have a rocket arm, although the jury is still out on his accuracy.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. Huh! I didn't know that about him.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 03:34 PM
Sep 2017

The university thing doesn't surprise me though lol. Isn't that one known for "graduating" athletes?

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
15. It is a business decision, like it or not
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 03:30 PM
Sep 2017

Look, I am a long term 49er fan. He was never able to progress. In fact, once his weaknesses were uncovered he regressed. During his last season as a starter the receivers would become visibly upset with him. He didn't have the ability to read the defense, he didn't have the ability to make decisions during the game. Once he was taught not to take off and run as his second option he actually lost his ability to run effectively. You could see the gears turning in this head, start to tuck ball, wait, don't run, wait look at second option, oh shit the defense is closing in on me.

So there is really not very much upside and the majority of your supporters would be unhappy.

I'm all for making a statement, but Colin is not the guy you die for.

Brother Buzz

(36,456 posts)
21. Ann Killion, sports writer for the SF Chronicle, was using the word regression....
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 04:06 PM
Sep 2017

fully two years before he discovered his activism. It was about the same time he was labeled a 'head case' and 'damaged goods'. Great athletic, but he's just not to swift upstairs.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
34. It was sad to watch.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 05:48 PM
Sep 2017

If you watch the NFC Championship game where he throws the pick against Seattle and the SuperBowl against Baltimore, he misses open receivers prior to the plays that cost the game. Not by physical mistakes but mental ones on previous plays. Wide open guys he just misses seeing. Now in those first two years it was OK, always figured he will improve, if only slightly, on the mental aspect. But as stated, his brain would just lock, painful as hell watch, I can't imagine what it did to coaches.

There was one game during Harbaugh's last year, 4th and two at the opponents 44, too long for the FG kicker, something they obviously went over. (Distance to try a FB) So they run up to the line of scrimmage and he starts trying to pull the other team offside. Now if that doesn't happen you simply take a delay of game punt from 5 yards back and try and have your defense hold and then get one more chance to move down the field.

Poor Kap looks up at the play clock running down, can only think he doesn't want a penalty and calls a time out. Harbaugh starts to get pissed, but was around Kap long enough to know it was worthless. They get the ball back late in the game, could have used that time out, but Kap burned that one for no reason and another one due to other confusion.

So is Kap better than some of the other QBs in the league, yes, without a doubt. Is Kap going to be able to lead a team to multiple playoff wins, No. When teams weren't fully prepared for them he had an advantage, once his weaknesses were exposed he became a bigger liability. So why should any team take up a fight for him.

That being said, I think the kneeling is justifiable, I would like to see entire teams take a knee next weekend to send a message.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
19. Colin Kaepernick
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 03:57 PM
Sep 2017

Is speaking for other black people, not for the Democratic Party, and on that score he is a hero and a martyr and a victim of racism.

He is unemployed NOT because of his skill set (it's better than at least a quarter of STARTING quarterbacks). The other players who support him are NOT employed because they are more valuable to their team but because they have not taken the same courageous and honest stand.

It's one thing to stand up for "free speech." It's another to speak the truth about systemic racism, to speak the truth that Blue on black crime is an intended goal of law enforcement, not merely an aberration, and that the black genocide occurring in our urban centers and elsewhere is not an unforseen consequence of our criminal justice system, but it's objective.

That's the kind of truth privileged NFL owners and fans can't handle.

THAT'S why Kaepernick is unemployed.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. Nah.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 04:04 PM
Sep 2017

Not what's happening here.

He's washed up. They'd hire him if he had any usable skills.

Look at some of the other responses in this thread where posters who know football comment on the issue.

Hero? Martyr? Victim? Pfft. Dude could not even bother to vote.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
32. It's both
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 05:43 PM
Sep 2017

Only Belichick would take a flyer on Tebow, who is a good comparison. Tebow and Kaepernick are both good college and mediocre NFL QBs who come with a lot of baggage.

On top of the Tebow effect, Kaep has a bunch of racist NFL owners trying to screw him.

So it's both. Football reasons and off field reasons.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
35. I'll agree with that.
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 06:09 PM
Sep 2017

But we both know if he was a Cam Newton (time will tell with him) or a Tom Brady he'd be signed.

Bottom line for me - taking a knee is stupid compared to voting. Sick of people who yell all the time, but never vote.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
31. Good for those that will carry on
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 05:29 PM
Sep 2017

He brought attention and awareness to an important issue. Others are carrying on. I love what he did with the million dollar pledge. It's sad that he didn't vote. It's sad that he wore that Castro shirt and people are mad Miami didn't take him. Are you fucking kidding me? If you can't understand that, then you don't have a clue. There is definitely division between players and owners as well as fans. But things are only getting started on the player protest front.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
36. I think I need to leave DU for a good long while...
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 06:14 PM
Sep 2017

..All the antifa pearl clutching.....defending any shitty behavior or words if it's done by a Democrat.....now slamming someone like Kaepernick (not the OP, just many of the responses and in other threads on the subject). I don't even recognize it on here any more. And yeah, it's always been a collection of differing opinions and takes on the generally liberal side of things. But lately this place has really become a haven for spin and hypocrisy that just depresses me way more than it offers any kind of light in this time of darkness.

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