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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Your Wife is Indicted for Fraud, Should You Resign?
If your wife is indicted for fraud, and you are under investigation, should you resign your position in government to avoid any appearance of impropriety? Should you do it to avoid embroiling your Party in needless controversy?
JERUSALEM Sara Netanyahu, the wife of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is likely to be indicted on fraud-related charges in a case that peers into spending on catered meals and lifestyle in the official residence, a statement by Israels attorney general said Friday.
The probe called the meal booking affair alleges that the prime ministers wife and the head of the operational resources unit in the official residence falsified documents so that food from outside companies and private chefs could be used, even though there was a full-time chef.
The statement by the attorney general, Avichai Mendelblit, said that Netanyahu is suspected of diverting some $102,000 in public funds for this use.
Netanyahu was informed that she would be able to make final arguments in the case before the state attorney issues a possible indictment, which could lead to a trial. No date has been set for such a hearing, however.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israels-meal-scandal-moves-closer-toward-indictment-of-netanyahus-wife/2017/09/08/ac4ad920-9487-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html?utm_term=.aaf01b252dfb
Mr Netanyahu himself is currently under investigation in four different cases related to bribery, fraud and breach of trust.
It is alleged that he received lavish and inappropriate gifts from wealthy supporters, such as cigars and champagne, and offered commercial favours to Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper owner Arnon Mozes in return for positive coverage.
He has also been asked to testify in the corruption case against his personal lawyer, David Shimron, over defence contract deals with German shipmaker ThyssenKrupp to buy submarines for the Israeli navy, and has been accused of failing to disclose his ties to key actors in a merger deal involving state telecommunications company Bezeq.
Mr Netanyahus former chief of staff, Ari Harow, agreed to testify against his former employer last month, despite the fact he is a long time friend and loyal supporter of both Mr Netanyahu and his Likud party.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/sara-netanyahu-graft-charges-benjamin-wife-israel-prime-minister-corruption-a7935706.html
R B Garr
(16,979 posts)It is not a generalized smear meant for political exploitation to gain an advantage over an opponent to damage him/her. No double standards allowed.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)And the investigation was not started by political partisans. Likud would be wise to make post-Bibi plans if they want to hold on to their coalition.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and his supporters and defenders and allies should encourage him so to do.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)These liars believe their lies.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)involving Israeli leaders?
Please explain the hostility here.
George II
(67,782 posts)....this year have been increased?
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It appears that the wife is no stranger to controversy...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Netanyahu#Controversy
Iggo
(47,568 posts)Expecting Rain
(811 posts)to try and insulate his wife from fraud charges?
I already see he's trying to claim the charges are politically motivated.
Just go already Bibi!
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)haveahart
(905 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)According to his wikipedia page...
In 1978, while Weizmann was pregnant, Netanyahu met a non-Jewish[268] British student named Fleur Cates at the university library, and began an affair. His marriage ended in divorce soon afterward, when his wife Miriam discovered the affair.[268] In 1981, Netanyahu married Cates, and she converted to Judaism.[269] The couple divorced in 1984.[270]
His third wife, Sara Ben-Artzi, was working as a flight attendant on an El Al flight from New York to Israel when they met.[45][268] She was in the process of completing a master's degree in psychology.[271] The couple married in 1991 and has two sons: Yair, a former soldier in the IDF Spokesperson's Unit,[272] and Avner, a national Bible champion and winner of the National Bible Quiz for Youth in Kiryat Shmona.[273]
In 1993, Netanyahu confessed on live television to having had an affair with Ruth Bar, his public relations adviser, claiming that a political rival had planted a secret video camera that had recorded him in a sexually compromising position with Bar, and that he had been threatened with the release of the tape to the press unless he quit the Likud leadership race. Benjamin and Sara repaired their marriage, and Netanyahu was elected to the leadership of Likud. In 1996, there were media reports of his 20-year friendship with Katherine Price-Mondadori, an Italian-American woman.[268][274] During the 1990s, Netanyahu criticized this media intrusion into his private life, claiming that political rivals including David Levy had hired spies on him in order to try to gather evidence of alleged affairs, although it was noted that the Israeli public are generally not interested in their politician's private lives and would prefer they remained private.[275]
Expecting Rain
(811 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and he never divorced someone for not being pretty enough, or someone who was recovering from cancer surgery. So I guess in that regard he's a real stand-up guy.
George II
(67,782 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Expecting Rain
(811 posts)of the center-left.
George II
(67,782 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,906 posts)But we are talking Bibi here - one of the most arrogant, belligerent, stuck on himself human beings on the face of the planet.
He'll probably blame it on Obama. Because eh? That's what his type always does. Always.
brer cat
(24,611 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts).... and it blows up in his face at the worst possible time, then yeah, he should resign. For the good of his own party.
But Netanyahu is a craven liar who has pocketed $100 million dollars in personal wealth. So he won't step aside. He'll most likely drag his own party down with him and cost his party seats. Then he'll blame anyone but himself.
Netanyahu needs to go away.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)R B Garr
(16,979 posts)correct to call it a damaging political ploy, as we all might surmise. It would be especially damaging if Bibi was holding himself out as a moral authority on corruption, though. That would be even more politically problematic. It would make him look like a liar, as well, and given the money involved, looks like they pocketed money, too.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)R B Garr
(16,979 posts)Well, it will be a game changer anyways.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)The Israeli police even had to release a statement saying he lied.
Why did Netanyahu lie? Because he is a craven liar.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)Not sure what your issue is.
R B Garr
(16,979 posts)you saying the Israeli police called people liars.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)R B Garr
(16,979 posts)and considering an indictment. Fraud charges, per the article. That's the hard part about being such a hyper-critic of others. He just looks guilty now that his wife is being accused.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)Netanyahu lied.
R B Garr
(16,979 posts)as you claim.
You said the Israeli police made a statement that they didn't make. There are still investigations, and they are certainly not nothingburgers as they are ongoing. A nothingburger would mean Bibi was cleared, and it's just starting.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)R B Garr
(16,979 posts)corruption. Looks like it's a game changer career wise.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)R B Garr
(16,979 posts)You're a yes vote for him resigning because of his wife.
Good to know.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)R B Garr
(16,979 posts)It is quite a scandal, indeed. Resigning is a good option for Bibi.
tavernier
(12,406 posts)was going to be about Bernie. I thought, "Oh no, here we go again!!" Relieved to see it was something entirely different.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)a breaking scandal that happened today.
moda253
(615 posts)JI7
(89,271 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)in that government.
When it comes to politicians who've been brought down from their position or even had their aspirations to rise to any seat in a government crushed by their inherent association to spouses supposed questionable or illegal "needs", it often has hinged on how tight a control any official maintains in that government.
There are several rethugs I can think of, here in our country, whose penchant for buddying up to billionaires soley to rake in the sop of baubled and bangled baksheesh that their spouses had a yen for, who came crashing spectacularly down once such graft was discovered and actually investigated. Tho, with crooked political blowhards such as ole Newt, of course he's still around, exerting right-wing power whenever he's given a chance, with his various "think" tanks in a determined and concerted effort to bring down our Party.
Then you can take a look at the sad careers of those who had no sturdy state ropes to latch on to, like Jesse Jackson Jr., who ended up doing time, as did his wife, for their suspected sleight of hand with campaign monies. On the other hand, there's Marjorie Margolies, whose husband also ended up in prison for his fraud but that scandal only temporarily interfered with her own career, once she'd divorced him.
I think it all boils down to political power, when you sit down and study how some politicians have overcome their obvious close ties to liars, cheats, and blatant corruption to then successfully go on with business as usual.
And Netanyahu is one powerful right-winger, so if and when he resigns, I, for one, will be pleasantly surprised. The man belongs in prison.
mucifer
(23,569 posts)Creamer, founder and former head of Illinois Public Action, also must serve 11 months of home confinement. But he escaped the longer sentence of 30 to 37 months suggested by federal guidelines.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-04-06/news/0604060259_1_political-consultant-sentenced-robert-creamer
MichMan
(11,974 posts)John Conyers wife Monica was convicted of receiving bribes in 2010 as Detroit City Council president and served 3 yrs in jail.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/10/monica-conyers-wife-to-jo_n_494305.html
demmiblue
(36,893 posts)And I am glad that John Conyers didn't resign... he is an important voice for the people.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)It's a case by case basis. Some indictments are backed by stronger evidence than others. In politics there are sometimes political shenanigans involved in an investigation. If you know you're guilty too, or know your wife will likely be convicted, it might be a good idea to resign so you can focus on saving your own ass and family.