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I guess Miss Texas will not be getting an invite to WH anytime soon.. (Original Post) HipChick Sep 2017 OP
Good for her Lotusflower70 Sep 2017 #1
Great answer dalton99a Sep 2017 #2
good for her.... chillfactor Sep 2017 #3
Good Job, I approve her answer. nt AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2017 #4
5 words I never thought I would be saying: 'Way to go Miss Texas'😬 MLAA Sep 2017 #5
Wow! I'd forgotten all about the pageant. Who won? hedda_foil Sep 2017 #6
North Dakota n/t AwakeAtLast Sep 2017 #9
Miss ND probably MontanaMama Sep 2017 #51
Bless Miss Texas! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #7
She's a recent UT Austin grad onetexan Sep 2017 #41
wow Kali Sep 2017 #8
Loved her response. She was honest and sincere. Ms Texas for President ! Say..in 2032-2040 RestoreAmerica2020 Sep 2017 #10
I believe in the good in the majority of the people HipChick Sep 2017 #11
Yes indeed. I believe that with every action there is an equal reaction..2018, 2020 Resist! RestoreAmerica2020 Sep 2017 #13
yes as Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said: gopiscrap Sep 2017 #19
I am from Texas thbobby Sep 2017 #12
+1 narnian60 Sep 2017 #29
Same here except for lately we have had a lot to be proud of. Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #30
Agreed thbobby Sep 2017 #32
Absolutely! Alice11111 Sep 2017 #58
Could you summarize for us deafies? Thanks. nt tblue37 Sep 2017 #14
(transcript from People.com) Crash2Parties Sep 2017 #22
She didn't answer the question: Were there "very fine people on both sides" in Charlottesville? SunSeeker Sep 2017 #15
The answer was in there lame54 Sep 2017 #45
It is, if you think she meant that entire right wing demonstration was a terrorist act... SunSeeker Sep 2017 #61
I think, like the rest of us, she thought... lame54 Sep 2017 #62
Then she would have said "terrorist acts" not "act." SunSeeker Sep 2017 #63
We simply don't agree... lame54 Sep 2017 #65
I'm sure she knows the difference between singular and plural. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #66
You then missed her very obvious implication? LanternWaste Sep 2017 #53
No. Keep the insults to yourself. The question was about Trump's "both sides" comment. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #55
She jumped ahead because she knew the story. forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #56
Yes, it was smart for her not to answer the question as posed. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #60
The winner (North Dakota) said we shouldn't have withdrawn from the Paris Climate LisaM Sep 2017 #16
I am proud of her. Doreen Sep 2017 #17
If you've lost Miss zentrum Sep 2017 #18
Wow! You go girl! StarryNite Sep 2017 #20
Cue faux news outrage machine Va Lefty Sep 2017 #21
He's no doubt working on the insult tweet as we speak. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #23
Cringe..prob say she was too fat or not pretty enough or something stupid.. HipChick Sep 2017 #24
With Sage Steele Standing Right There, Too! ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #25
Wow, I'm impressed. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #26
Awesome lady get the red out Sep 2017 #27
Thank you Miss Texas Achilleaze Sep 2017 #28
Who would want to go to that den of hate, corruption, greed and chaos. democratisphere Sep 2017 #31
Yer makin' me proud, Miss Texas! Trueblue Texan Sep 2017 #33
Lots of folks in Texas share the same sentiment... Trueblue Texan Sep 2017 #34
That makes two of us. DFW Sep 2017 #35
Dismaying and even dangerous. A liberal black congressional candidate who was Hortensis Sep 2017 #37
With me, it's connected with the Democrats Abroad and the DNC DFW Sep 2017 #42
Sounds like you're also short on connections to the GRU and FIS. Hortensis Sep 2017 #44
Fireball aimed right at her head, and she belted it right out of the park. Hortensis Sep 2017 #36
I have a hunch she wouldn't go, if she was invited. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #38
We've come a long way from the Miss Teen USA contestant . . . ET Awful Sep 2017 #39
No kidding dalton99a Sep 2017 #40
Poor thing. I felt for her at the time. Hortensis Sep 2017 #46
Miss America and Miss USA are Different . Miss America is about winning a Scholarship JI7 Sep 2017 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author tammywammy Sep 2017 #59
EXCELLENT! Lee Adama Sep 2017 #43
KUDOS, Ms. TX niyad Sep 2017 #47
Yeah for this young lady Gothmog Sep 2017 #48
Trump's invite won't be for her to go to the White House Dopers_Greed Sep 2017 #49
I'll be following her on Twitter etc. Catch2.2 Sep 2017 #50
She is from Tulsa OK, and was a member of All Souls Unitarian Church OKNancy Sep 2017 #52
Granted, my experience with this...milieu... is limited, BobTheSubgenius Sep 2017 #54
Miss Texas workinclasszero Sep 2017 #64
So proud of her!!! Way to go Miss Texas!!!! ❤❤❤ Dem_4_Life Sep 2017 #67

onetexan

(13,057 posts)
41. She's a recent UT Austin grad
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:38 AM
Sep 2017

Longhorns are unabashedly liberal, much like the city the campus resides in . I just hope she will not be getting death threats by crazy RW extremists.

Kali

(55,019 posts)
8. wow
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 01:04 AM
Sep 2017

I know I shouldn't but that wasn't a question or answer I would expect at a beauty pageant. good for both!

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,438 posts)
10. Loved her response. She was honest and sincere. Ms Texas for President ! Say..in 2032-2040
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 01:09 AM
Sep 2017

....She represents what is good about America.... El mal hombre ( mal:bad, evil, sinister, mean) now occupying the WH does not--he represents racism, bigotry and hate towards non white, non Christian, lgbt, immigrants and refugees and after Charlottsville ( the death of Ms. Heyer, those injured ) he revealed his hate for liberals, Jews...so,well--that's almost everyone....really.

In one sentence this young lady denounced him, his support for hate, bigotry and racism in America and in front of the entire country without hesitation she spoke la verdad.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,438 posts)
13. Yes indeed. I believe that with every action there is an equal reaction..2018, 2020 Resist!
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 01:41 AM
Sep 2017
have a good night. After watching news on Florida most of day. I hope people stay safe.....

gopiscrap

(23,764 posts)
19. yes as Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said:
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 02:17 AM
Sep 2017

"the arc of the moral universe tends to bend towards justice"

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
12. I am from Texas
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 01:23 AM
Sep 2017

Seems so seldom I can say "I am proud of Texas!".

Maybe I am just proud Texas Youth or specifically Miss Texas.

I hate beauty pageants and when I have seen contestants giving answers to questions have usually felt they were shallow.

But Miss Texas, YOU ROCK! Great response! Love to see youth being intelligent and outspoken.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
30. Same here except for lately we have had a lot to be proud of.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 07:32 AM
Sep 2017

The way everyone was pitching in to help, no matter their color or Party affiliation. No matter their wealth, or lack thereof, that part of Harvey was wonderful!

We see so much bad because that is what gets the attention, but there are so many good people out there just doing their thing. That is not to say that all who helped are good and those who didn't are bad, but there was some good in almost everyone.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
22. (transcript from People.com)
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 03:24 AM
Sep 2017
Q: Last month a demonstration of neo-Nazis, white supremacists and the KKK in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned violent and a counter protestor was killed. The president said there was shared blame with "very fine people on both sides." Were there? Tell me yes or no and explain.

A: I think that the white supremacist issue … it was very obvious that it was a terrorist attack. And I think that President Donald Trump should have made a statement earlier addressing the fact and making sure all Americans feel safe in this country. That is the number one issue right now.

SunSeeker

(51,670 posts)
15. She didn't answer the question: Were there "very fine people on both sides" in Charlottesville?
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 01:45 AM
Sep 2017

Instead, she addressed another aspect of Trump's awful Charlottesville response. Her description of the deadly car attack as a "terrorist attack" is how Trump should have described it. I give her props for saying it. I'm sure she has lots of friends and family in Texas who vehemently disagree with her and it took some guts to say that.

SunSeeker

(51,670 posts)
61. It is, if you think she meant that entire right wing demonstration was a terrorist act...
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:36 AM
Sep 2017

and thus all the right wingers there were terrorists. But I don't think that's what she meant. I think she was just referring to the right winger who rammed his car into the crowd.

lame54

(35,318 posts)
62. I think, like the rest of us, she thought...
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 01:56 PM
Sep 2017

The whole demonstration was out of line and Trump should have condemned it

SunSeeker

(51,670 posts)
63. Then she would have said "terrorist acts" not "act."
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 02:16 PM
Sep 2017

There was not just one demonstration. There was the neo-Nazi MAGA uniform-clad tiki torch march Friday night, terrorizing synagogues and African American churches. There was the neo-Confederate protest at the Lee statue on Saturday morning. There was the alt-right loser who killed a women with his car after that Lee statue protest was dispersed. It is pretty obvious she was just referring to the car ramming.

lame54

(35,318 posts)
65. We simply don't agree...
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 02:29 PM
Sep 2017

She put it in her own words that she was disappointed in the president

Her answer made it clear which side she was on re: Charlottesville

SunSeeker

(51,670 posts)
66. I'm sure she knows the difference between singular and plural.
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 02:37 PM
Sep 2017

But I do appreciate her criticising Trump's refusal to call the car ramming a terrorist act.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
53. You then missed her very obvious implication?
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 04:52 PM
Sep 2017

You then missed her very obvious implication? Or is literal interpretation not just for fundies anymore?

SunSeeker

(51,670 posts)
55. No. Keep the insults to yourself. The question was about Trump's "both sides" comment.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 07:39 PM
Sep 2017

I gave her props for saying the car ramming was a "terrorist act." But there remains the issue of the Nazis and all those who marched with them. They should be condemned as well.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
56. She jumped ahead because she knew the story.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:10 PM
Sep 2017

They worded the question "check a box and 100 words or less" and she was very poised and intelligent to not fall into a trap of making it about her.

SunSeeker

(51,670 posts)
60. Yes, it was smart for her not to answer the question as posed.
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 05:18 AM
Sep 2017

She could have condemned all the right wing protesters that marched that day, but look what happened to Hillary when she called such people deplorables.

Saying there were not "very fine people on both sides" does not make it about her. She could have avoided the deplorables trap with a simple No, followed it up with what she did say.

Regardless, l give her props for what she did say. It was spot on and powerfully delivered.

LisaM

(27,828 posts)
16. The winner (North Dakota) said we shouldn't have withdrawn from the Paris Climate
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 02:08 AM
Sep 2017

Agreement......

There was an anti-Trump vibe going on. It wss subtle at first, but then the questions were not.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
17. I am proud of her.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 02:10 AM
Sep 2017

Also she will not have to go to the WH and have the the orange puss drool over her breasts.

ProfessorGAC

(65,160 posts)
25. With Sage Steele Standing Right There, Too!
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 05:15 AM
Sep 2017

She's a whiny, conservative crank who has thought she knew everything when she was 18

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
28. Thank you Miss Texas
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 06:28 AM
Sep 2017

for slapping down the hate-mongering of the republicans and their ignoble Comrade Casino, republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
35. That makes two of us.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:13 AM
Sep 2017

But I'd have been chagrined if I'd gotten an invite to the White House this year. Three years in a row to the Obama White House (and I'm sure Trump's people have the names) should suffice to disqualify me from being on their list as long as the Duke of Orange is holding court there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Dismaying and even dangerous. A liberal black congressional candidate who was
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:26 AM
Sep 2017

filmed at a Rump rally has been battling left wing hate mail ever since. More than a little misunderstanding for him.

Hadn't thought of it, but no doubt a lot of people are refusing invitations, and only a few because they couldn't risk being seen there.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
42. With me, it's connected with the Democrats Abroad and the DNC
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:45 AM
Sep 2017

There's no way those connections would lead to even an inadvertent invitation to the White House so long a Republican is sitting in there. And even if they did, I wouldn't go. For Clinton and Obama, I gladly got on the plane and flew 4000 miles. For Trump, I wouldn't walk across the street.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Sounds like you're also short on connections to the GRU and FIS.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:58 AM
Sep 2017

How wonderful that must have been.

I'll never get an invite from Rump either, but I wouldn't either. When our slimy ALEC-member congressman and his entourage walked into a place I was volunteering and came straight at me, I almost knocked over a table putting other, happier constituents between me and the handshakes and cameras.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Fireball aimed right at her head, and she belted it right out of the park.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:21 AM
Sep 2017

Good girl. This'll read well on her resume in some quarters, and the others are best to stay away from anyway.

GoCubsGo

(32,087 posts)
38. I have a hunch she wouldn't go, if she was invited.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:31 AM
Sep 2017

The really great thing about this is that she seems typical of her generation. But, still. It took guts for her to speak up in that way. Texas should be proud of her, as should the rest of her country.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
39. We've come a long way from the Miss Teen USA contestant . . .
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:04 AM
Sep 2017

" I personally believe that U. S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our education, like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should—our education over here in the U. S. should help the U. S., uh, or, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq, and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. Poor thing. I felt for her at the time.
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 12:10 PM
Sep 2017

Guessing she may not have much more intellectual curiosity as our cat, but that's a perfectly normal way to be. A lot of people are like that and can live very good, worthy lives in the personal worlds they do care about.

I just looked her up out of curiosity. Never went to college, so right on that guess. But she did sign on with Donald Trump's modeling agency, which announced it was closing down in April, but there's an unconfirmed rumor it's being investigated by the NY AG's office. Good grief!

Last mention, she was selling real estate in Brentwood, Los Angeles. 28 now and, best guess, will marry someone before long who can afford to purchase in Brentwood. Wish her well.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
57. Miss America and Miss USA are Different . Miss America is about winning a Scholarship
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:41 PM
Sep 2017

it's more focused on talent .

Response to ET Awful (Reply #39)

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
49. Trump's invite won't be for her to go to the White House
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 03:22 PM
Sep 2017

It will be for himself to barge into her dressing room

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
52. She is from Tulsa OK, and was a member of All Souls Unitarian Church
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 04:49 PM
Sep 2017

I'm an on again off again member. Her family still attends.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
54. Granted, my experience with this...milieu... is limited,
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 06:51 PM
Sep 2017

but that is surely the most cogent and on-point answer I've ever seen a beauty contestant give. Even the diction and conviction with which she said it were good.

With that, she is now sitting at #1, out of 8 or 9.

Dem_4_Life

(1,765 posts)
67. So proud of her!!! Way to go Miss Texas!!!! ❤❤❤
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:23 PM
Sep 2017

Way to represent this great state! I could not be more proud!!!

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