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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:41 AM Sep 2017

"Elegy for the Sunshine State"

A very good, very true article from an old high school friend of mine (and best-selling author of "The Forever War" ) .

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/requiem-for-the-sunshine-state

Elegy for the Sunshine State

By Dexter Filkins

If you grow up in Florida, you watch the natural world around you disappear. It’s just a fact you live with. The verdant, miles-long stretch of dune and palm, rustling to the beat of the waves? Paved over. The brackish stream that flows from ocean to intercoastal, giving life to manatees, alligators, and tarpon? Turned into a parking lot. The swath of live oak trees, the Spanish moss clinging to their branches like the mists from a Faulkner novel? It’s an apartment complex called Whispering Pines.

It doesn't matter when you moved to Florida. Ever since the nineteen-sixties, the stream of people pouring into the state has been relentless: an average of eight hundred newcomers a day. All of them need places to live. Where I grew up, in Cape Canaveral, the destruction of nature happened so fast that it was often disorienting; passing a stretch of woods for perhaps the eight-hundredth time, I would stare at the backhoes and cranes and wonder what had occupied that space only a week before. On a few occasions, my teen-age friends and I got so angry that we scaled the fences of construction sites and moved the survey points that were marking the spot for the next foundation—the next pour of cement. We failed, of course, to stop what the builders were building, or even to slow it down. The joke among us was that every housing development in Florida was named to memorialize the ecosystem it replaced: Crystal Cove, Mahogany Bay, The Bluffs. For about a year, I lived in an apartment complex, paved from end to end, called “In the Pines.”

It’s useful to remember this now, as Hurricane Irma lays waste to much of Florida: the destruction of the state has been unfolding for decades, and, for the most part, it wasn’t done by nature. It was done by us. In the nineteen-nineties, I covered the Miami-Dade county commissioners as a reporter for the Miami Herald. Miami is a vibrant, tumultuous city, remade every few years by the energy of its new arrivals. But, in the time I worked there, one thing never changed: the enthusiasm with which the elected commissioners greeted every new housing or commercial development unveiled before them. It was a kind of sad ritual: A new housing development would come up for a vote, and an earnest member of the county’s planning-and-zoning staff would warn about the development’s impact on the quality of the schools, on the phlegmatic pace of rush-hour traffic, on the erosion of beaches. Almost always, the pleas were ignored; the economy of modern Florida is a kind of Ponzi scheme, where tomorrow’s growth pays for today’s needs, and real estate is the largest employer. It was a confidence game, and the commissioners were only too happy to go along.

Once, following the approval of a housing development on an especially sensitive stretch of land near the Everglades, the Herald ran a story titled “The End of Nature.” Some of the commissioners called to protest the story, but the headline made no difference; the development rose anyway. Florida’s current governor, Rick Scott, is an apostle of the game: Scott has prohibited state environmental officials from using the terms “climate change,” “global warming,’’ or “sustainability” in their official communications.

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"Elegy for the Sunshine State" (Original Post) Atman Sep 2017 OP
Let's not forget who facilitated the process. Baitball Blogger Sep 2017 #1
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2017 #2
How true packman Sep 2017 #3
I had The Golden Childhood in Jacksonville Beach, 1953-1960. BamaRefugee Sep 2017 #4
I had that Golden Childhood in Cocoa Beach during the space boom. Atman Sep 2017 #14
SAD! BamaRefugee Sep 2017 #17
It all comes down to too many people. Duppers Sep 2017 #5
+1 FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #7
No. US fertility rate is low. Look at Japan. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #18
US needs more kids, not fewer. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #19
Touchy subject but there are facts... Duppers Sep 2017 #20
Ehrlich is thoroughly discredited sharedvalues Sep 2017 #21
Same thing happening in AZ. nt marybourg Sep 2017 #6
You'd like John Sayles' (the godfather of indie film) "Sunshine State." ancianita Sep 2017 #8
Over half of Miami-Dade County is foreign born AngryAmish Sep 2017 #9
No. Atman Sep 2017 #15
For a great read on Florida's "modernization" ........ Flo Mingo Sep 2017 #10
Lots in common with Texas. Greed, developers LuckyLib Sep 2017 #11
Yeah, don't come to FL! Stay far away! Baclava Sep 2017 #12
Nice stock photos. But we both know that that's not the norm. Atman Sep 2017 #16
It is happeneing all over the country question everything Sep 2017 #13

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
1. Let's not forget who facilitated the process.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:14 PM
Sep 2017

Developers from Miami moved northward and outward. Some may have thought they would recreate their successes. Like construction in Coral Gables, where they don't even have sidewalks, yet it hasn't hurt property values. Another bad omen, many of these early pro-development forces moved into the legal fields, where a morphed political attorney was hatched. Their conflicts of interests were unimaginable and they, more than any group in Florida, helped enable a horrible environment where the rights of homeowners were systematically suppressed. Anything that stood in the way of development was disposable.

When you have attorneys with ties to Tallahassee and a dual political system that is useless when there's money flowing in the community - Yeah, we should all be furious by the way Florida development process was mishandled.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
3. How true
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:29 PM
Sep 2017

I live in a development named "Hawk's Nest" off a road called Berryhill. An old-timer told me that the development I now live in used to be the tallest spot in the area a wilderness of tall pine trees known for its numerous hawks circling the woods of wild berries and walnut trees. Little remains of the berries or the hawks now.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
4. I had The Golden Childhood in Jacksonville Beach, 1953-1960.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:52 PM
Sep 2017

Very little development, miles and miles and miles of pine woods on one side of A1A, beautiful white sand dune beaches on the other. Clean lagoons in between with the occasional alligator, but you could catch dozens of crabs to take home for Mom to make dinner with, and gather a bucket full of wild blackberries for a cobbler.
Lots of visits to aircraft carriers in Mayport as my Dad was a Navy flier who stayed in the Reserve after WW2.
In 1960 we moved to Chicago, which totally rocked my little beach boy world, but what a great place that was too, maybe the most important discovery of my life was MODEL RAILROADS IN PEOPLE'S BASEMENTS! A hobby which has lasted me a lifetime.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
14. I had that Golden Childhood in Cocoa Beach during the space boom.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 04:20 PM
Sep 2017

We used to get taken out of class at Freedom 7 Elementary School to walk to the beach and watch the Apollo launches. I've witnessed all of the moon launches from the beach, and I had VIP press passes to the first two Space Shuttle launches. The most incredible place to grow up one could imagine.

All of the old open spaces I used to play in, get lost in for an entire day, they're all gone. The Banana River (actually a lagoon) used to be crystal clear, and we could harvest oysters, and go fishing for our dinner, and we could swim and waterski -- now it's a dark brown nasty mess with constant health advisories. Very, very sad.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
5. It all comes down to too many people.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:10 PM
Sep 2017

But let's just keep congratulating all the parents on their newborns, especially if it's their second, third, fourth...

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
7. +1
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:37 PM
Sep 2017

We've added over a 100 million people to this country since the days of Richard Nixon. Way too many people not only here but on the planet.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
18. No. US fertility rate is low. Look at Japan.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 07:57 AM
Sep 2017

We don't want to be Japan with too few young people and too many old people, whose population is shrinking.

Global population is rising, but Western countries need more kids.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
20. Touchy subject but there are facts...
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 10:24 AM
Sep 2017

Last edited Tue Sep 19, 2017, 11:00 AM - Edit history (1)

1. The current U.S. population growth rate is .7%.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.GROW

2. Growth should be negative if 98% of climate and environmental scientists are to be believed - apparently you don't believe them. And they agree that the growth rate of the world's human population and its current rate of consumption are unsustainable. "Current Population is Three Times the Sustainable Level"
http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable

3. The U.S. Is the Biggest Carbon Polluter in History.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/01/climate/us-biggest-carbon-polluter-in-history-will-it-walk-away-from-the-paris-climate-deal.html

4. "Even a pandemic wouldn't create a sustainable population, study says."
http://www.newsweek.com/even-pandemic-wouldnt-create-sustainable-population-study-says-280338


BUT of course, what do all these scientists know? It would be nice if you spent some time reading DU's Environmental & Energy Group.




Edited to say I know this is a very touchy subject but I have been reading about this for decades (ever since Stanford U. Prof. Paul Ehrlich wrote about it in 1968) and I have been most distraught, even to the point of tears.
My only child, my 30yo son, has decided to never have children because of the world's situation. I will never become a grandmother. That's how seriously we take this.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
21. Ehrlich is thoroughly discredited
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 06:33 PM
Sep 2017

Re your four pts
1. True. Small.
2. Incorrect. See Ehrlich's errors. Or "Peak Oil"
3. True. We need to cut carbon emission. Best way to do that is stop the Kochs from plundering the environment for profit.
4. Again, false. Ehrlich's errors.

I agree with this on Ehrlich from Wikipedia

Jonathan Last called it "one of the most spectacularly foolish books ever published"



Growth has little to do with it - we'd be much better off reducing cars and roads than reducing people.

Please go and have kids. The US faces a low growth rate. We face economic decline if we cut immigration and fertility - see Japan. Furthermore, the DeVos type christofascists are having many kids and liberals are having few. If you're worried about climate, lobby for fewer roads and more public transit and a higher gas tax, and get your kids to lobby for them too.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
8. You'd like John Sayles' (the godfather of indie film) "Sunshine State."
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:42 PM
Sep 2017

"Nature is overrated."




I lived in Florida from age 4 to 24. Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Jacksonville, Miramar, Ocala, Tallahassee.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
15. No.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 04:21 PM
Sep 2017

It's an anti-development "screed." I know the author personally. He's not an anti-immigrant kinda guy.

Flo Mingo

(492 posts)
10. For a great read on Florida's "modernization" ........
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:48 PM
Sep 2017

Check out "A Land Remembered" by Patrick Smith.

He chronicles the earliest years of euro settlers to Florida through the boom years of the 50's & 60's. Fascinating and heart wrenching.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
11. Lots in common with Texas. Greed, developers
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:52 PM
Sep 2017

cutting a wide swathe of profiteering in a de-regulated environment, and no state income tax. Let the rest of us pay for your wall-to-wall concrete!

Atman

(31,464 posts)
16. Nice stock photos. But we both know that that's not the norm.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 04:24 PM
Sep 2017

But I agree...I will never move back to Florida. To me, the masses of hiking trails and undeveloped forests of Eastern Connecticut's Last Green Valley is paradise now. Florida? Been there, lived that...back when it was nice.

question everything

(47,487 posts)
13. It is happeneing all over the country
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 04:04 PM
Sep 2017

Cities tear down single houses to build apartment buildings and condo to increase their tax base.

Some years back I was present at a council meeting and some people were complaining about removal of beautiful trees. They purchased their homes to enjoy the trees, but it was decided to convert a two lane road to a four lane major road and the tress had to go.

It does not matter whether you are at a major metropolis or a mid town cities; at the coast or in the Midwest. Government planners see empty space and they cannot wait to pave over it to generate more tax revenue.

I wonder whether this happens also in Idaho, Montana, Wyoming or the Dakotas..


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