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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Republicans would be even more nervous if they knew what Chicago was still, patiently, sitting on."
Yeah, I know, it's Halperin...but I'll take it.
July 17, 2012By MARK HALPERIN+
Pause for two beats and pay Prizzis Honor-style homage to the ruthless killing machine that is the combined White House-Chicago operation.
They have parceled out their opposition research in a manner both strategic and tactical, selecting specific news organizations at times of their choosing to maximize the drip-drip-drip of the twin stories. They have used left-leaning Web outfits as recipients of over-the-transom gifts as effectively (cumulatively) as the Romney campaign uses Drudge. And they have seen the Boston Globe use its credibility to drive a ton of news.
The Obamans have dominated numerous consecutive news cycles since the last unemployment numbers came out. And there is more to come for sure. The Gang of 500 is confident it is just a matter of time before Romney relents and puts out additional years of tax returns, an eventuality that the Obama campaign will drag out for days. When some said that the Bain issue was burning out through its use by Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and others in the nomination fight, Chicago was quietly confident the matter could be easily revived with new information and heavy advertising and Chicago was right. And, make no mistake, the Obamans are sitting on even more research that they will unfurl down the road.
-snip-
Romney still hasnt answered all the Bain questions (despite Boston pretending otherwise) and he still hasnt satisfied the call (including from some Republicans) for his tax returns. For now, without a doubt, Romney is losing on two fronts: the politico-media dialogue is not focused on the Obama economic record and Romney is being defined by the opposition.
But Romney has not collapsed in the polls by any means, and the President remains short of the magical 50% in most surveys. Maybe Romneys foreign trip, VP selection, and convention will organically turn the page for him in time. But there are a lot of nervous Republicans outside the campaign who dont think thats true. And most of those nervous Republicans would be even more nervous if they knew what Chicago was still, patiently, sitting on.
http://thepage.time.com/2012/07/17/status-of-bain-and-romneys-tax-returns/
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Been saying this for over a year.
Don
Deep13
(39,154 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,326 posts)FFS: He's channeling Karl Rove.
hatrack
(59,594 posts)"Maybe Romneys foreign trip, VP selection, and convention will organically turn the page for him in time."
Yes, because there's nothing better-designed to make all things Bain go away than the adrenaline-fizzing prospect of Pawlenty or Portman leaping into the national consciousness, clad in spandex and red leather, silhouetted against the glow of burning SEC filings.
Sheesh.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)what the hell is that?
It didn't miss me that Halperin refers to "Obamans" in reference to President Obama's campaign; but uses "the Romney Campaign" when referring to President Obama's competitor.
And his use of the word "Chicago" ... I didn't think anyone could make a written term actually drip with vile and disgust. But Halperin certainly did.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And I love it.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)I hope the Obama administration has a whole lot more.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Romney is a liar and it takes effort to break through the media's circle of wagons.
Asking for more than one year of tax returns, asking for someone to back up what is in their resume and asking someone to explain how they created 100,000 or 10,000 or even 10 jobs in America while they were pioneers of outsourcing is not "dirty." This stuff has found traction because it is relevant.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)are dirty when you want to win. Rove is the best teacher. Obama learned from the best. I am proud of Obama that he is taking it to those liars. But politics is dirty and you have to know how to play those tactics right back. It doesn't mean Obama is lying he is just playing it right back on their court. Politics is like a chess game and you have to know the tactics to play. So far Obama is doing well.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)So telling the unvarnished truth is now dirty tricking?
WOW.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Politics is very dirty. To win you got to get down in the dirt. Obama is playing on the Rove field. I respect the president very much. I have happy he is taking to the republicans. Politics are dirty tactics. Sorry if you feel offended.
barbtries
(28,815 posts)just the truth. that's a big difference.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)barbtries
(28,815 posts)but still if you're not lying...
republicans lie. constantly. that's dirty.
BeyondGeography
(39,388 posts)The Obama campaign has been masterful at messaging and media management. July is turning into a lost month for Romney as a result. Halperin suggests there's plenty more where that came from, which is surely true.
Romney is banking on his SuperPac's to make up the difference come the general, but his advertising advantage will vanish if he keeps losing the free media wars. Since he has no message and they have nothing on Obama, good luck trying to turn that tide.
azureblue
(2,154 posts)I think that, about now, the fat cats who are backing Mitt are probably worried if some if this will rub off on them. That is, if, somehow, their bribery money wound up on a Mitt tax form somewhere. Further, I am sure some are starting to wonder if they are backing a loser, and wondering if it will be worth the money to keep dumping cash into a failure. They may be rich and corrupt, but they did not get rich throwing away their money on lost susses, and I think that is what Mitt is to them. They are probably taking a very close look, reading about the hints that the Obama campaign has more on Mitt, and deciding if they should try to spend their way out of Mitt's mess, or cut their losses and let him sink. And worrying if Mitt will take them down with him, if they stay on board....
My prediction is Mitt will start to lose financing very soon, and those deep pockets that stay with him, will try to hide in the shadows.
Tanuki
(14,926 posts)about Romney's taxes and Bain issues while he was interviewing McCain insiders for his Game Change book. He probably figures that if he knows something, the Obama team knows it.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)Halperin comes down on both sides. If Conservatives use him as a basis for more 'media bias' then criticism is warranted, but only when he pisses off either side.
Jus saying.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)This is Halperin's backhanded "compliment" that's meant to drive home that point. It's bullshit.
He then represents Obama's campaign as somehow dirty Chicago politics, more Rovian nonsense. These are legitimate questions about Romney's capacities and ethics.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Romney hides when he should show. Turtles when he should just answer and gets pissy when caught in his own lies. THAT is Romney's style and always has been. The idea that Romney is running away from his own resume because of some imaginary Al Capone-esque PR campaign is absurd.
azureblue
(2,154 posts)that Mitt is less of a man than his father is. George released 12 years of his tax records, so why can't sonny boy live up to his father's standards?
Johnny2X2X
(19,213 posts)There is nothing dirty about asking Romney for his tax returns. There is nothing dirty about questioning his record at Bain, it's what he's running on, it has to be examined.
That being said, the Obama team knows all of the answers before they ask the questions and they have a lot more questions to ask. This will get very ugly for Mitt.
rieger
(11 posts)must have know this would happen immediately if Mitt was there guy and they weren't capable of heading this off. Crazy is in complete control of the Republican party and has come home to roost.
Zoonart
(11,890 posts)The PTB in the Republican party stayed out of the food-fight for the nomination and let Mitt rise to the top- even though they don't like him. WHY? To throw the Obama camp a curve ball? Knowingly let the supremely unlikeable Romney be their straw man then drop the torch on him themselves?Thus their chosen-one candidate avoids the swamp that was the nomination process and walks onto the stage of the convention looking like Superman.
Poof-Open Convention... where the Kennebunkport Corleones install the new Don- Jeb Bush. Bush- Christie!
Tin foil hat territory?
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)they MUST have known this would backfire on Romney, so I must think there is something bigger in the works here. I'm guessing one of two things happens:
1. Like you say, Romney steps down just before or at the convention, and their new hero - Bush? Pawlenty? Santorum? Huckabee?? emerges with 2 months to go....
2. Or Romney will pick as his VP the person who will take over for him, to start getting that persons name in the press and such, and then step aside saying he "doesn't want to be a distraction" and then his VP pick will be the new nominee.
We'lll have a better idea which scenario will happen by WHO he picks for VP. If he picks someone old and out of touch and like a wildcard, like Fred Thompson or Gingrich, we'll assume it is option 1 because no reputable politician wants to be the butt of a losing ticket/joke except for someone who is a wild card or "rogue" to begin with.
If on the other hand, he DOES pick one of the reputable politicians as his VP nominee, that person will start polling better than Romney himself, and option 2 will seem like the best exit solution for him.
Guess we'll see. Tin foil hat is for UFO's and stuff, but there is definitely SOMETHING fishy going on here, it's just a matter of what.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)It would involve two things:
1. Admitting that the establishment GOP was WRONG with Mittens. It would give the plug to pull on the GOP's chances at the presidency. The GOP would look weak. Maybe the weakest they've looked in modern history. Weakness kills presidential candidates.
2. It would alienate the remainder of the GOP voting bloc that actually likes Mittens. There are a lot of GOPers who are biting their tongue and will vote for Mittens now because he's the nominee... But how much more disenfranchised would they be if the GOP ELITE chose a different candidate than the one the primaries selected? The President could destroy the GOP's chances just by pointing out that they've gone against the will of the people.
In short, Mittens stays and is seen as weak and probably loses, Mittens goes and the party seems weak/betrays their voting bloc and they probably lose...
How beautiful it is too!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)He is going to go down via the death of a thousand cuts. You do not make the kind of money he has without making many enemies and doing a lot of shady things. And that is a bad combination.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Trigger stapped to the jet and all of us want a look see at his precious money.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)when the guy wakes up with a horse's head in his bed. Somehow I can see this Mitt mess playing out like that, figuratively speaking.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)The two are different. I don't like how he conflates the two. There's a such thing as a negative campaign which isn't dirty. Romney is a case where some negative campaigning about his Bain history is appropriate, especially when SEC filings suggest he might have committed federal crimes. Then there's the question: why does he have tax-insulated overseas accounts, and where did he get that money? These are the stuff of some of the sleaziest, most corrupt, dictators on earth. It's negative campaigning, but it's not dirty. Romney's running on his history as a business manager.
Romney tried to conflate the two when he demanded an apology from Obama. Halperin's subtle acceptance of this equivalency makes me suspicious that he's carrying R's message is either cunning or incompetent depending on how suspicious you are.
brooklynite
(94,808 posts)Looking back, I think we're seeing the rollout of a well throught-out, meticulously planned, and precisely timed campaign strategy that will seem frustrating at times for it's apparently plodding pace, but will turn out to have been scheduled in just the right way.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Halperin sure sounds like the name of a pharmaceutical. For a moment, I thought you were saying there's a record somewhere of Romney being on anti-psychotics. It might explain the smile and strange laugh simulation he does.
Marr
(20,317 posts)his credential for the Presidency. You can't cry foul when your opponent obliges.
mick063
(2,424 posts)took only two sentences.
To add any more only dilutes it.
drm604
(16,230 posts)what are members of Romney's campaign, Romulans?
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)CAG
(1,820 posts)Nixon, Lee Atwater, race-baiting, McCarthyism, and Rove.
Cry me a river....
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Obama's economic record as if it is bad...FDR's record was worse & Reagans was not much better in an economy that was not near as bad.
Oh well.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)They might know there is something serious there that might be a disqualifier.
This could get very interesting.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)SunSeeker
(51,755 posts)Romney hasn't released enough tax returns to even pass a cabinet appointment confirmation in the senate.
Historic NY
(37,457 posts)Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)Did I miss another page on this article? WTF was that?
Halprin couldn't stand being left out in the cold, so he throws together this?