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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:17 AM Sep 2017

With every wish comes a curse-How Democrats Gave the GOP One More Chance to Repeal Obamacare




How Democrats Gave the GOP One More Chance to Repeal Obamacare
Their debt-ceiling deal with President Trump cleared up a busy congressional calendar and may have removed a big hurdle for Republicans facing a September 30 deadline.


“They may have spiked the ball in the end zone a little too early,” Mitch McConnell observed about his Democratic colleagues to The New York Times last week.

The Senate majority leader was referring to the celebrations from Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi about the deal they struck with President Trump, in which the president agreed to a short-term increase in the debt ceiling over the objections of McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan. McConnell boasted that because of the way he wrote the corresponding legislation, going forward Democrats won’t have the same leverage on the debt ceiling that they thought they would.

But the agreement that “Chuck and Nancy” reached with Trump may end up backfiring on Democrats in another way: It freed up time for Republicans to take one last stab at dismantling the Affordable Care Act.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/how-democrats-gave-the-gop-one-more-chance-to-repeal-obamacare/540495/


"More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones."

They're called Faustian Bargains for a reason.


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With every wish comes a curse-How Democrats Gave the GOP One More Chance to Repeal Obamacare (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 OP
When have Democrats been a hurdle? yallerdawg Sep 2017 #1
I read the whole article but I'll cherry pick these parts..... SharonClark Sep 2017 #2
Trump is 100% evil. There is no negotiating with evil. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #3
I really cant take another "debt ceiling" melodrama from the idiot tea bags emulatorloo Sep 2017 #4
The argument is we made their schedule less busy thus giving them more time for mischief. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #5

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. When have Democrats been a hurdle?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:27 AM
Sep 2017

This is all on the Republican majority.

Just like when the Democrats passed the Affordable Care Act, only due to the Republican's manipulations, and disrespect for bipartisanship and Regular Order, they need 10 fewer 'party unity' votes and STILL can't pass a thing!

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
2. I read the whole article but I'll cherry pick these parts.....
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:29 AM
Sep 2017

On Wednesday, Pelosi rejected out of hand the notion that they might share some of the blame. “Nooo,” she replied when a reporter asked if she had any regrets about striking the deal and clearing the calendar for a repeal bill. “They’re not even related. In fact, it gives us the opening,” Pelosi said. “That’s why [the Republicans] were opposed to it. That’s why they were so long-faced coming out of the meeting.”

A Senate Democratic aide similarly dismissed the argument as “nonsensical.” Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the aide said that even if the Senate was negotiating a spending deal in the final days of the month, there would be nothing to stop McConnell—either procedurally or politically—from bringing up a repeal bill as well. “McConnell would move to have this vote the minute he had the votes no matter what else was on the table,” the aide said. “So of course we would make the deal we made at the beginning of the month because that sets up the maximum amount of leverage for the end of the year.”


You really trust what McConnell says over what Pelosi says?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Trump is 100% evil. There is no negotiating with evil.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:35 AM
Sep 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029616730


I will admit that I got caught up in the euphoria of rolling Trump at the time but I realize unyeilding opposition to Trump is better for us tactically, morally, and strategically.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
4. I really cant take another "debt ceiling" melodrama from the idiot tea bags
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:47 AM
Sep 2017

YMMV of course, but I personally don't see a connection between Pelosi and Schumer looking out for us and Graham's bullshit. As Pelosi said they are not even related. She's not a liar like McConnell

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. The argument is we made their schedule less busy thus giving them more time for mischief.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:50 AM
Sep 2017

I will admit that I got caught up in the euphoria of "rolling" Trump on the debt ceiling but I am more comfortable in opposing everything he does.

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