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fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:21 PM Sep 2017

Completely unprompted, Mike Pence declares he was not aware of collusion with Russia

https://shareblue.com/completely-unprompted-mike-pence-declares-he-was-not-aware-of-collusion-with-russia/

Sure, Uptighty Whitey, I believe you (wink, wink) . . .

Pence’s outburst also come hours after it was revealed that then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort offered to give a Russian billionaire connected to Vladimir Putin “private briefings” on the Trump campaign.

It is well-known that Russian operatives who promised dirt on Hillary Clinton met with the highest level members of the Trump campaign, including Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and current senior White House adviser.

Appearing on CBS This Morning, Pence was asked by anchor Charlie Rose if he felt Mueller’s investigation was overstepping its bounds, an allegation Trump himself has made.

After noting that determination was “for others to say,” Pence then shifted focus and, completely unprompted, told Rose, “I’ve made clear that during my time on the campaign, I was not aware of any contacts or any collusion with Russian officials.”
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Completely unprompted, Mike Pence declares he was not aware of collusion with Russia (Original Post) fleur-de-lisa Sep 2017 OP
Sounds like he's a might paranoid since Manafort picked Pence for the VP slot. n/t woodsprite Sep 2017 #1
OMG, did he now Hekate Sep 2017 #6
I've heard this for months . . . fleur-de-lisa Sep 2017 #16
Mikey is getting nervous.... Pachamama Sep 2017 #2
They lie with impunity and we're supposed to believe them because arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #67
Aha! So he agrees that there was collusion! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #3
Yeap, but no one is going to believe his dumb ass uponit7771 Sep 2017 #4
That's Exactly How I Interpreted His Comments.....nt global1 Sep 2017 #8
Zactly! Duppers Sep 2017 #87
for being one of the leadership in the campaign and transition...Pence sure is ignorant. Thomas Hurt Sep 2017 #5
Reminds me of Bush Sr. genxlib Sep 2017 #46
Stretch and broke. A bunch of people had to be pardoned Hortensis Sep 2017 #59
He doth protest too much. Continue on Mikey riversedge Sep 2017 #7
It's a pet peeve--that phrase doesn't mean what you think it means. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #12
"You thinks that, dost you?" - Lou Grant, Mary Tyler Moore bettyellen Sep 2017 #19
"Oh, Lou" Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #72
I wanted to be her! bettyellen Sep 2017 #73
so did I nt burnbaby Sep 2017 #86
"Art thou vexed?".... David Sedaris hwmnbn Sep 2017 #21
David Sedaris is everything great in an essayist. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #69
My favorite misuse of Shakespeare... LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #33
I grew up on Gilligan. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #68
Et tu, Cuthbert? (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2017 #37
I didn't know that. Thanks. trof Sep 2017 #44
Thank you. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #70
I knew the proper meaning of... 3catwoman3 Sep 2017 #77
I didn't know that! (I just mis-used it here the other day.) Thanks for the clarification. fierywoman Sep 2017 #48
Not a problem. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #71
He is scared to death right now. redstatebluegirl Sep 2017 #9
He knows he is guilty, he knows trump can pardon him, he knows trump Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #55
In other news, he admits not being aware of oxygen RainCaster Sep 2017 #10
Liar Solly Mack Sep 2017 #11
Effin' LIAR malaise Sep 2017 #64
He's the kid who Bettie Sep 2017 #13
Yeah, right. Like he was focused like a laser on the campaign 24/7 world wide wally Sep 2017 #14
That wasn't the question but thanks for your impromptu clarification, um . . . ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #15
I think he looks all Penced Up. Lint Head Sep 2017 #17
Uptighty Whitey meow2u3 Sep 2017 #18
I stole that from an episode of 'Impractical Jokers' fleur-de-lisa Sep 2017 #27
OMG . . . I accidently embedded a video! Yay me!!! fleur-de-lisa Sep 2017 #28
I freakin' LOVE this!!! calimary Sep 2017 #50
And with the crusts cut off Control-Z Sep 2017 #66
One of my hobbies is watching criminal trials...the ones who are guilty of something always say... iluvtennis Sep 2017 #20
Tremble, Mikey, tremble NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #22
he's shitting his pence rurallib Sep 2017 #23
LOL LittleGirl Sep 2017 #26
"This is not what the American people are focused on" ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #24
I believe.... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #32
Sounds like something Tricky Dick would have said, LOL. n/t KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #34
Their base and the dashboard believers have very little knowledge of what's going on underpants Sep 2017 #36
Oh boy are they in for a shock when Mueller is done ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #61
Too late Mikey, they're comin' for you... LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #25
What, What??? peggysue2 Sep 2017 #29
THIS!! and it looks like what's been reported on regarding Mueller consistently is the "intentional" uponit7771 Sep 2017 #54
Right, comeupPENCE! SergeStorms Sep 2017 #30
I was not aware of the speed limit, Officer bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #31
"I never even knew Russia existed until just this morning!" struggle4progress Sep 2017 #35
Was this the 'your airplane is broken' excuse so the the Russians would be at the airport too? ffr Sep 2017 #38
And then there's the fact that Pence new Flynn was a foreign agent for months ffr Sep 2017 #39
Thank you. Rachel has been showing that letter repeatedly. Why don't reporters call him on it? SunSeeker Sep 2017 #51
Am I the only one who notices a similarity with Pence when Enoki33 Sep 2017 #40
You liar, repent! flamingdem Sep 2017 #41
Another Art Thurm moment for Mikey. George II Sep 2017 #42
Too funny! A HA HA HA HA !! vkkv Sep 2017 #43
Says "Russian Officials" SayItLoud Sep 2017 #45
Littlefinger Pence has spoken. 6000eliot Sep 2017 #47
pence is the worse. the religion factor is chilling. spanone Sep 2017 #49
As Malcolm Nance would say, Pence is getting buggy. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #52
It doesn't matter what WE think, Mikey Mr. Ected Sep 2017 #53
Uptighty whitey ladym55 Sep 2017 #56
Liar mgardener Sep 2017 #57
Pence is a liar and he's going down DesertRat Sep 2017 #58
Aww, he wants to be president. Isn't that nice. gtar100 Sep 2017 #60
Like Sessions, he is prompted by his awareness of his own guilt to preemptively blurt out tblue37 Sep 2017 #62
Tell it to Mueller and not Charlie Rose, Mikey, you POS phony. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #63
Pence is guilty has heck Gothmog Sep 2017 #65
He's a child, just like Sessions ecstatic Sep 2017 #74
i think i would get more enjoyment watching him go down than Trump JI7 Sep 2017 #75
Regret and lots of it is going around these days. Grammy23 Sep 2017 #76
Man the lifeboats! CanonRay Sep 2017 #78
Mike "Spiro Agnew" Pence needs to follow Sargeant Schultz's claims. democratisphere Sep 2017 #79
Run, Pence.......... run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! raven mad Sep 2017 #80
Pence: "never shampoo a shampooer " ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #81
Who else used to say, "I'm not a crook"? sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #82
My-oh-my BlueJac Sep 2017 #83
"during my time on the campaign" More_Cowbell Sep 2017 #84
Get them, all Mueller, get them all. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #85

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
16. I've heard this for months . . .
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:50 PM
Sep 2017
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/22/1646138/-Manafort-made-Pence-the-VP-they-talked-regularly-during-the-transition

"Mike Pence is the Vice President because of Paul Manafort’s effort. During the transition period, Manafort was apparently talking regularly on the phone with Mike Pence, especially about personnel choices."

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
2. Mikey is getting nervous....
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:23 PM
Sep 2017

Reminds me of Jeff Sessions during his hearings when he also unprompted brings up Russians....


Sure, Mikey....we believe you...

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
46. Reminds me of Bush Sr.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:42 PM
Sep 2017

As VP, it was always a stretch to believe that Bush Sr. was out of the loop on Iran Contra.

Especially since he was the ex-head of the CIA.

In my book, that either made him a liar or incompetent. Either one should have disqualified him from the Presidency.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. Stretch and broke. A bunch of people had to be pardoned
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:38 PM
Sep 2017

or indictments quashed to keep him from being pulled into Iran-Contra.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
12. It's a pet peeve--that phrase doesn't mean what you think it means.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:30 PM
Sep 2017

"Protest" in the sense of that line means "vow." Hamlet was saying that the woman in the play that was supposed to represent the queen was making too many vows to too many men in an effort to take a jab at mom.

Much like "wherefore art thou Romeo" doesn't mean "where" are you but "why" are you (named) Romeo.

I fully realize most people don't know that or use it that way, but there's your free Elizabethan literature lesson for the day.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
70. Thank you.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:39 PM
Sep 2017

English teacher. I try not to be that pretentious guy, but this is one of a handful that drive me nuts.

"I took the road less traveled by" is another one. I laughed a lot when they tackled that misuse in the first episode of Orange is the New Black.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
77. I knew the proper meaning of...
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 12:10 AM
Sep 2017

..."wherefore," but not the "protest too much." I always love learning about proper meaning and usage. I think I may have been an English teacher myself in a previous life.

Sloppy writing and careless word use drive me nuts.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
71. Not a problem.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:40 PM
Sep 2017

My current classes I teach don't give me the opportunity to teach Shakespeare, but I love those plays.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
55. He knows he is guilty, he knows trump can pardon him, he knows trump
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:15 PM
Sep 2017

is a lunatic.

tough spot

He knows trump never does anything without getting something in return

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
13. He's the kid who
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:32 PM
Sep 2017

says "I didn't put my finger in the cake frosting!" before mom even knows it was done.

Yeah Mikey, we believe you...oh, wait, no one believes you.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
15. That wasn't the question but thanks for your impromptu clarification, um . . .
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:45 PM
Sep 2017

just try to convince Mueller when he gets around to you.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
27. I stole that from an episode of 'Impractical Jokers'
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:42 PM
Sep 2017

They weren't using it in reference to Pence, but to some random guy who was walking by in a park.

Here's a link to a youtube video (sorry, I don't know how to embed):



Except for the color of his hair, that guy looks like a younger version of Pence.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
50. I freakin' LOVE this!!!
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:09 PM
Sep 2017

Uptighty Whitey!

I've said it before: I think the main, deep-down visceral reason that trump picked Mike Pence was because he's the whitest-looking white guy anybody's ever seen, outside any member of the albino community, that is. NOBODY looks as much like a slice of conventional garden-variety white bread as Mike Pence does.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
66. And with the crusts cut off
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 09:05 PM
Sep 2017

like many American children demand. The maggot still loves his wonder bread with the crusts cut off, I'm sure. Lol.

There is also the part when the maggot was ready to fly out to meet Chris Christy to choose him for VP but his plane developed engine problems that kept him on the ground - to meet Pence.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
20. One of my hobbies is watching criminal trials...the ones who are guilty of something always say...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:07 PM
Sep 2017

..."Not that I recall". They do iz cuz if it comes up to prove they did something, they can say, "but I testified that I couldn't recall", so I wasn't untruthful.. I DESPISE Pence.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
24. "This is not what the American people are focused on"
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:35 PM
Sep 2017

Where have I heard that sentiment before? Maybe Kellyanne "Dirty Hands" Conway?

This seems to be a mantra they repeat on TV in the hope that those watching will believe it and start focusing on something else. Doesn't seem to be working, though.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
36. Their base and the dashboard believers have very little knowledge of what's going on
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:58 PM
Sep 2017

That's normally the case anyway but in the Russia thing - they are barely aware it's going on.

Fox News hardly covers it (to portray the viewer as a victim) and talk radio mocks it.

A FB friend posted some nonsense about Ashley Judd this morning which I quickly found to be made up. When posting the link I commented "Thank you Russian bots for this disinformation". He responded "Oh you libs and the Russians. You all are still on that?"

They have no idea.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
61. Oh boy are they in for a shock when Mueller is done
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:09 PM
Sep 2017

I think they are going to feel like we did in November. "It came out of nowhere! How could this happen?!" Well, that's karma.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
25. Too late Mikey, they're comin' for you...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:38 PM
Sep 2017

In the video, he did not sound like he usually does. A little shake in the voice.

He's lying.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
29. What, What???
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:50 PM
Sep 2017

Is this the same Mike Pence, who when asked about whether he thought there might have been Russian and campaign collusion, said with self-righteous certainty,

"Of course, not."

That Mike Pence???

The walls are beginning to close in. Cory L has called out Manafort and Roger Stone, said if they colluded with the Russians they should go to jail. I suspect a circular firing squad is in the making.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
54. THIS!! and it looks like what's been reported on regarding Mueller consistently is the "intentional"
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:14 PM
Sep 2017

... angle so Benedict Donald and the Kremlin KKKlan can't come on say "we didn't mean to commit treason" or some shit like that.

They ... KNEW ... what they were doing was fucked up to some degree and then tried to obstruct the investigation into it.

Pence's statements are going to be used against him and his "I didn't know shit" excuse isn't going to work either.

bucolic_frolic

(43,188 posts)
31. I was not aware of the speed limit, Officer
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:51 PM
Sep 2017

and at no time did I know I had to file income tax returns for moonlighting

ffr

(22,670 posts)
38. Was this the 'your airplane is broken' excuse so the the Russians would be at the airport too?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:08 PM
Sep 2017

Someone check the airport log sheets. There are way too many meetings on the tarmac between tRump's plane and those of Russian oligarchs.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
39. And then there's the fact that Pence new Flynn was a foreign agent for months
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:12 PM
Sep 2017

Then he lied about not knowing or the timing. The guy is up to his eyeballs in treasonous corruption. He may be worried about prison sentencing once Mueller is done with tRump's sentencing.


SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
51. Thank you. Rachel has been showing that letter repeatedly. Why don't reporters call him on it?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:12 PM
Sep 2017

I've never seen a reporter interviewing Pence press him on this letter. Of course, Pence will not get anywhere near Rachel, LOL.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
40. Am I the only one who notices a similarity with Pence when
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:15 PM
Sep 2017

he is lying, and televangelists whenever they are trying to separate people from their social security checks?. They are from the same despicable mold.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
53. It doesn't matter what WE think, Mikey
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:14 PM
Sep 2017

All that matters is what Bobby Three Sticks thinks.

And something tells me he's been thinking a LOT about you lately, Mikey.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
56. Uptighty whitey
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:19 PM
Sep 2017

I love it.

He is in it up to his neck.

Pence is white evangelical pond scum--lying, unethical, and creepy, but more than happy to sit in judgment on other people's sexuality.

mgardener

(1,817 posts)
57. Liar
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:20 PM
Sep 2017

I think there is something about lying in the 10 commandments, Mr. Pence.
Also the bible you are so fond of quoting.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
60. Aww, he wants to be president. Isn't that nice.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:08 PM
Sep 2017

What a terrible burden he must carry knowing what is best for everybody else in the world - he's just that kind of guy. It's no reflection on him that tRump and everyone else around him turned out to be such treasonous assholes, right?



tblue37

(65,408 posts)
62. Like Sessions, he is prompted by his awareness of his own guilt to preemptively blurt out
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:12 PM
Sep 2017

a lying defense against an accusation that his interlocutor has not even made.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
74. He's a child, just like Sessions
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:36 PM
Sep 2017

Pre-emptively and without prompting declaring their innocence, which later turns out to be a lie. My younger sister used to out us that way when we were *very little* kids.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
75. i think i would get more enjoyment watching him go down than Trump
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:52 PM
Sep 2017

partly because i think trump is already exposed but it's just a matter of shitty republicans and disproportionate representation that gives his supporters more say.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
76. Regret and lots of it is going around these days.
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 12:02 AM
Sep 2017

People who hitched their wagon on the tRump bandwagon are starting to realize that all the shenanigans done last year are snowballing on them. With Mueller's help, of course. Pence is in a thorny position. He had to distance himself from key players to try to avoid the stench they carry. But then if he goes too far, it looks like he is a world class doofus. So rock meet hard place. This is what you get when you play footsie with snakes. I can't wait to see him (and others) squirm like a worm on a hot griddle. Must see TV, indeed!

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
84. "during my time on the campaign"
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
Sep 2017

I don't believe him at all, but I think he's trying to distance himself from just the pre-inauguration collusion. I can't imagine why.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
85. Get them, all Mueller, get them all.
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 02:39 PM
Sep 2017

The entire upper echelon of GOP power needs to be taken down or we will be down this road again.

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