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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNational Review: Why won't Jimmy Kimmel leave policy talk to the health care experts?
Experts like Reeps who don't even know what's
in the bill most of the time and just spout talking
points given to them, points that have no actual
basis in fact?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Then they blame Kimmel when they fail the test. How very Republican!
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Leaked that Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi coached Kimmel.
My eyes rolled like marbles.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)What was it?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)here it is on an alternate hosting site"
https://imgur.com/HrT4eaV
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)You can't have Trump as the leader of your party and say anything like this.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)they HAVE to.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)The same Pope with an advanced degree in chemistry
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)Daffy Duck knows more about health care than Donald Trump, so I think Kimmel is eminently qualified to talk about the subject by Republican standards.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)More qualified to talk about health care and the effects of what the GOP is trying to do than the people it directly effects. They know what the problems are. They are the ones who have to navigate the system. They are the ones that know first hand how this is going to effect their lives. In fact that is what the democrats need to do. Run spots about real people how the ACA has helped them and what it was like before or how it would have been before. Some GOPer on NPR said that the ACA has destroyed millions of people? That type of bs needs to be addressed and shut done immediately.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Because the GOP can always find someone for whom the ACA made premiums higher.
Yes, individual stories are compelling - look at Jimmy Kimmel. That's good for rallying the public, however, the GOP can always find someone who pays way more in premiums now than they did prior to the implementation of the ACA.
We need collective evidence to fight them.
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)considers members of Congress to be health care experts??? Hell, the MDs in congress have shown very little competence in how it is done.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)at all. Very different areas of expertise - like meteorolgists that claim to know more than climate scientists...
I trust the conclusions of large, diverse orgs that consolidate the collective wisdom of large, diverse populations of health care providers, more than small politically oriented orgs that buck the consensus of big orgs, like "Physicians for Life" do.
As we know, there were physicians in the KKK. So yeah, education doesn't innoculate you from bigotry and fascist thinking.
See also: Rand and Ron Paul....
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)I worked with assholes and bigots. I also walked with some wonderful human beings.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)20 years after another saved mine in the ER - I had a GI bleed that had not been detected after a car accident.
She saw how pale I was, and asked me some questions... turns out that I needed two units of blood.
The health care profession attracts those who nurture, and some control freaks with a God complex.
Much like law enforcement and politics.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)So STFU, National Review! Compared to them, he is an expert.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)a win is all he wants, no matter how many people it hurts. Anything connected to Obama, he wants to destroy.
George II
(67,782 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)= "We don't want popular people with lots of influence telling the public what we're doing."
JHB
(37,160 posts)For NR you have to phrase it so that in their heads readers will hear "jeering Yalie prick".
Combine Trump's self-importance, Thurston Howell the Third's accent, and some actual training in rhetoric.
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)"Those new-money lib-er-al Hollywood Valley Elites need to stay out of politics! Don't you agree?" (sips brandy,
sets glass on tray)
"Indeed, Sir. Will there be anything else? Shall I send the boy in for your "foot" massage?"
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)help kill his son!
JHB
(37,160 posts)...they'd have fired all of their writers, or at least have a completely different set of them. And probably would have folded, because its readers aren't interested in expertise. They want affirmations with a Jeering Yalie Prick accent.
People on my Facebook feed share NR articles. I realized there was a ready check on the writer's expertise and perceptiveness: their archives. Particularly for their foreign policy wonks, what they were writing in 2002-2003 about Iraq batted zero, while liberal counter arguments hold up pretty well or were right on the mark.
Same for most economic and political topics. They might not like Trump, but they toiled for decades to build the road he's drag-racing on.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)He only referenced chumpy's past as a game show host.
He could have pointed out that the party is led by an effin' lying, cheating, racist, misogynist, sexual predator con man russian puppet piece of shit.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I do not think any of the 100 Senators in the U.S. Senate are experts on health care. As far as I know Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy are not experts on health care. However, most, if not all, of the health care experts agree with Jimmy Kimmel. Also, Kimmel is likely much more of an expert on the issue of health care since he has a son who might need expensive health procedures for most of his life if not the rest of his life. Finally, National Review represents the party that has routinely allowed non-experts to have a say on issues of health care. I think many at this website can list the cases in which the Republican Party sided with non-experts against experts when a decision about someone's health care needed to be decided.