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National Review: Why won't Jimmy Kimmel leave policy talk to the health care experts? (Original Post) ehrnst Sep 2017 OP
Lol ananda Sep 2017 #1
Republicans invent the Jimmy Kimmel test gratuitous Sep 2017 #2
Perfect! mountain grammy Sep 2017 #23
The fox talking heads on Jimmy today.. Watchfoxheadexplodes Sep 2017 #3
Malwarebytes blocked your image as malware...? hlthe2b Sep 2017 #4
I think your security settings may block any .im sites. ehrnst Sep 2017 #6
thanks! yup... apparently so. hlthe2b Sep 2017 #8
Here's the image packman Sep 2017 #21
ha! good response hlthe2b Sep 2017 #25
Perfect JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #5
That was good oberliner Sep 2017 #7
Repubs have their irony detectors removed before running... Wounded Bear Sep 2017 #26
Why won't gopers leave climate policy to the experts? groundloop Sep 2017 #9
Remember, "The Pope should leave climate change to scientists." rpannier Sep 2017 #14
Because experts don't put public opinion first. They look at facts. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #29
Health care experts like Donald Trump, for example? DFW Sep 2017 #10
Who is Bear Creek Sep 2017 #11
I would rebut that GOP'er with data from non-partisan health care policy think tanks. ehrnst Sep 2017 #30
The National Review TNNurse Sep 2017 #12
Damn straight. And individual physicians are not necessarily health policy experts ehrnst Sep 2017 #28
I worked in a hospital for 37 years. TNNurse Sep 2017 #31
One very observant nurse saved my son's life when he was 4 years old. ehrnst Sep 2017 #32
Kimmel knows more about the health care bill than most republicans. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #13
Jimmy read it, Dotard didn't & has NO idea what is in it Motley13 Sep 2017 #27
What a great response!!! George II Sep 2017 #15
"Lib'rul Hollywood elites need to stay out of politics" forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #16
Right translation, wrong accent... JHB Sep 2017 #18
"I say, Wentworth..." forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #19
Since when do Republicans listen to health care experts? sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #17
Because that policy talk could whistler162 Sep 2017 #20
If National Review was concerned about expertise... JHB Sep 2017 #22
Mr. Bailey was very kind not fooled Sep 2017 #24
The Experts Agree With Him erpowers Sep 2017 #33

ananda

(28,866 posts)
1. Lol
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:23 AM
Sep 2017

Experts like Reeps who don't even know what's
in the bill most of the time and just spout talking
points given to them, points that have no actual
basis in fact?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Republicans invent the Jimmy Kimmel test
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:25 AM
Sep 2017

Then they blame Kimmel when they fail the test. How very Republican!

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
3. The fox talking heads on Jimmy today..
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 08:26 AM
Sep 2017

Leaked that Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi coached Kimmel.


My eyes rolled like marbles.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
14. Remember, "The Pope should leave climate change to scientists."
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:39 AM
Sep 2017

The same Pope with an advanced degree in chemistry

DFW

(54,405 posts)
10. Health care experts like Donald Trump, for example?
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:19 AM
Sep 2017

Daffy Duck knows more about health care than Donald Trump, so I think Kimmel is eminently qualified to talk about the subject by Republican standards.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
11. Who is
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:30 AM
Sep 2017

More qualified to talk about health care and the effects of what the GOP is trying to do than the people it directly effects. They know what the problems are. They are the ones who have to navigate the system. They are the ones that know first hand how this is going to effect their lives. In fact that is what the democrats need to do. Run spots about real people how the ACA has helped them and what it was like before or how it would have been before. Some GOPer on NPR said that the ACA has destroyed millions of people? That type of bs needs to be addressed and shut done immediately.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
30. I would rebut that GOP'er with data from non-partisan health care policy think tanks.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 06:20 PM
Sep 2017

Because the GOP can always find someone for whom the ACA made premiums higher.

Yes, individual stories are compelling - look at Jimmy Kimmel. That's good for rallying the public, however, the GOP can always find someone who pays way more in premiums now than they did prior to the implementation of the ACA.

We need collective evidence to fight them.

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
12. The National Review
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:36 AM
Sep 2017

considers members of Congress to be health care experts??? Hell, the MDs in congress have shown very little competence in how it is done.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
28. Damn straight. And individual physicians are not necessarily health policy experts
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 06:11 PM
Sep 2017

at all. Very different areas of expertise - like meteorolgists that claim to know more than climate scientists...

I trust the conclusions of large, diverse orgs that consolidate the collective wisdom of large, diverse populations of health care providers, more than small politically oriented orgs that buck the consensus of big orgs, like "Physicians for Life" do.

As we know, there were physicians in the KKK. So yeah, education doesn't innoculate you from bigotry and fascist thinking.

See also: Rand and Ron Paul....

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
31. I worked in a hospital for 37 years.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 06:46 PM
Sep 2017

I worked with assholes and bigots. I also walked with some wonderful human beings.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
32. One very observant nurse saved my son's life when he was 4 years old.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 06:59 PM
Sep 2017

20 years after another saved mine in the ER - I had a GI bleed that had not been detected after a car accident.

She saw how pale I was, and asked me some questions... turns out that I needed two units of blood.

The health care profession attracts those who nurture, and some control freaks with a God complex.

Much like law enforcement and politics.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. Kimmel knows more about the health care bill than most republicans.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:37 AM
Sep 2017

So STFU, National Review! Compared to them, he is an expert.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
27. Jimmy read it, Dotard didn't & has NO idea what is in it
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:49 AM
Sep 2017

a win is all he wants, no matter how many people it hurts. Anything connected to Obama, he wants to destroy.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
16. "Lib'rul Hollywood elites need to stay out of politics"
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 09:59 AM
Sep 2017

= "We don't want popular people with lots of influence telling the public what we're doing."

JHB

(37,160 posts)
18. Right translation, wrong accent...
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:14 AM
Sep 2017

For NR you have to phrase it so that in their heads readers will hear "jeering Yalie prick".

Combine Trump's self-importance, Thurston Howell the Third's accent, and some actual training in rhetoric.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
19. "I say, Wentworth..."
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:20 AM
Sep 2017

"Those new-money lib-er-al Hollywood Valley Elites need to stay out of politics! Don't you agree?" (sips brandy,
sets glass on tray
)

"Indeed, Sir. Will there be anything else? Shall I send the boy in for your "foot" massage?"

JHB

(37,160 posts)
22. If National Review was concerned about expertise...
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:26 AM
Sep 2017

...they'd have fired all of their writers, or at least have a completely different set of them. And probably would have folded, because its readers aren't interested in expertise. They want affirmations with a Jeering Yalie Prick accent.

People on my Facebook feed share NR articles. I realized there was a ready check on the writer's expertise and perceptiveness: their archives. Particularly for their foreign policy wonks, what they were writing in 2002-2003 about Iraq batted zero, while liberal counter arguments hold up pretty well or were right on the mark.

Same for most economic and political topics. They might not like Trump, but they toiled for decades to build the road he's drag-racing on.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
24. Mr. Bailey was very kind
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:52 AM
Sep 2017

He only referenced chumpy's past as a game show host.

He could have pointed out that the party is led by an effin' lying, cheating, racist, misogynist, sexual predator con man russian puppet piece of shit.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
33. The Experts Agree With Him
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 07:16 PM
Sep 2017

I do not think any of the 100 Senators in the U.S. Senate are experts on health care. As far as I know Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy are not experts on health care. However, most, if not all, of the health care experts agree with Jimmy Kimmel. Also, Kimmel is likely much more of an expert on the issue of health care since he has a son who might need expensive health procedures for most of his life if not the rest of his life. Finally, National Review represents the party that has routinely allowed non-experts to have a say on issues of health care. I think many at this website can list the cases in which the Republican Party sided with non-experts against experts when a decision about someone's health care needed to be decided.

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