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The president called an American a "son of a bitch" for a quiet act of political dissent. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2017 OP
Bingo. dalton99a Sep 2017 #1
The NFL may needto hire Kaepernick as QB to fix this Not Ruth Sep 2017 #2
Trump defines himself with this comment..I could not believe that the President of the U.S.A Stuart G Sep 2017 #3
It's not that he doesn't know! atreides1 Sep 2017 #4
Perhaps you are right, he doesn't care..but I think that he also doesn't know.. Stuart G Sep 2017 #6
"Why get into such a meaningless discussion?" kag Sep 2017 #15
I've got to add another word PJMcK Sep 2017 #14
He's using K as a distraction. His base love ths stuff. jalan48 Sep 2017 #5
Yes, his base "loves this stuff"..but does he know that his "base" is .."shrinking" ? Stuart G Sep 2017 #7
I agree-his time is limited. It may be he is considered mentally incompetent and jalan48 Sep 2017 #8
The person who holds the office of POTUS TNNurse Sep 2017 #9
Condemning free speech True Dough Sep 2017 #10
Didn't block traffic, didn't cause violence, didn't do anything to anyone IronLionZion Sep 2017 #11
Here's one I like - Not an SOB, but a Daughter of a SOB packman Sep 2017 #12
Are the police starting jimmil Sep 2017 #21
Trump and Kaepernick are both being jerks. gulliver Sep 2017 #13
No, one is being a political activist and the other is the asshole who got baited. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #16
Taking a knee for the anthem is very counterproductive. gulliver Sep 2017 #18
As was refusing to get out of her seat on the bus....in the short term. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #20
There is a big difference between what Parks did and what Kaepernick did. gulliver Sep 2017 #23
This isn't about what you imagine about what didn't happen in the past. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #26
Not at all, the ones fighting the oppression aren't the oppressor & don't have to fight it perfectly uponit7771 Sep 2017 #28
Kaepernick is fighting badly and giving oppression big victories. gulliver Sep 2017 #31
Not to the oppressed he's not, I'm tempted more to take the opposite view of Red Don uponit7771 Sep 2017 #32
false equivalency at best ones a white supremacist the other is protesting white supremacy uponit7771 Sep 2017 #27
People who have been largely barred from the American dream due to color JCanete Sep 2017 #30
I hope all NFL players take a knee this Sunday, in protest. (nt) Paladin Sep 2017 #17
Absolutely I hope so as well benfranklin1776 Sep 2017 #19
Wouldn't it be great jimmil Sep 2017 #22
I hope whomever is going to be OUR next president is taking notes. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #24
He is YOUR boss, you dumbass. tavernier Sep 2017 #25
You know who wants to deny your freedom of speech? (rhetorical) rock Sep 2017 #29

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
3. Trump defines himself with this comment..I could not believe that the President of the U.S.A
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:46 AM
Sep 2017

could say something like this in public.. He really doesn't know how stupid and insensitive he sounds.

welllllllll he is stupid!!!....got to add another word...............He is very stupid..

Protesting ain't new...everyone has their own way. So Trump gets involved in something he knows nothing about, and should leave alone. But rather than "leave it alone"..he has got to see himself at the top...so he uses language that is.."inappropriate"..............................but...........................................

he doesn't know..how "stupid" he sounds using that language....why?...because he is .very stupid

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
6. Perhaps you are right, he doesn't care..but I think that he also doesn't know..
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:57 AM
Sep 2017

Why get into such a meaningless discussion? Using language that is "inappropriate"...Now I do know he doesn't care..what people think..........I get that....but to use the office of the Presidency ...to go into a discussion like this..................in my opinion is....very stupid

Immediately he sets up a discussion about protesting....and a person's right to protest. and all that...Perhaps it is just a diversion away from the other stupid things he has said and done....

......................................................................................................oh well..

kag

(4,079 posts)
15. "Why get into such a meaningless discussion?"
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:22 PM
Sep 2017

Well said.

Any way you put it the man is clearly a moron who doesn't give a shit.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
7. Yes, his base "loves this stuff"..but does he know that his "base" is .."shrinking" ?
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:03 AM
Sep 2017

Less and less people support him. More and more see the stupidity of him....

Yes, 25 percent will always support him..but when it gets that low, (and it will) ..then the other 75 percent will be willing to impeach him.. And that means he has lost the support of the nation. I know he doesn't care on any level.. But that will be a time, after indictments and other "resignations"..that it will be time for him...
"to resign". Perhaps I am totally wrong. But that time is coming. Mueller is still investigating....

When the extent of the investigation becomes public, (and it will become public, of course).. it will be very ugly for Trump and his family.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
8. I agree-his time is limited. It may be he is considered mentally incompetent and
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:06 AM
Sep 2017

thereby escape the penalties he deserves. Those under him won't be so lucky if we can take back the House and Senate.

IronLionZion

(45,451 posts)
11. Didn't block traffic, didn't cause violence, didn't do anything to anyone
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 11:42 AM
Sep 2017

literally just kneeled quietly and that was too much for some assholes.

Is Colin Kaepernick A More Generous Philanthropist Than Donald Trump?
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/8qyyjb/is-colin-kaepernick-a-more-generous-philanthropist-than-donald-trump

Before we get to whatever it is that President Trump is on about, here, here is something that happens to be true: by many measures, Colin Kaepernick is a more prolific philanthropist than Donald Trump.

jimmil

(629 posts)
21. Are the police starting
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 01:05 PM
Sep 2017

To look more and more like something out of science fiction film? Robo Cop??

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
13. Trump and Kaepernick are both being jerks.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:11 PM
Sep 2017

I agree with Kaepernick that the country oppresses minorities, of course. I just don't see how his trying to convey that by not standing for the national anthem isn't idiotic and counterproductive. Kaepernick is letting Trump, a consummate asshole, eat our lunch on this issue.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
18. Taking a knee for the anthem is very counterproductive.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:38 PM
Sep 2017

Kaepernick is absolutely right that there is oppression of minorities in this country, and it needs to be fought. The way he is doing it is completely wrong. The net effect is a huge backfire. Trump and the very worst of his supporters are reaping huge benefits from Kaepernick.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. As was refusing to get out of her seat on the bus....in the short term.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:42 PM
Sep 2017

Even though people bring light into the darkness is always resisted, it is necessary if we are to see at all.


gulliver

(13,186 posts)
23. There is a big difference between what Parks did and what Kaepernick did.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 01:11 PM
Sep 2017

Parks moved the cause of civil rights a giant leap forward. No just person could fail to see she was in the right to keep her seat.

Imagine if Parks had kept her seat but also pulled out a U.S. flag and wiped her nose with it. She might have explained that it was just a piece of cloth to her, because it represented a country where blacks were forced to sit in the back of buses. If she had done that, people who wanted to defend her and side with her on her right to equal treatment would not have.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
28. Not at all, the ones fighting the oppression aren't the oppressor & don't have to fight it perfectly
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 01:35 PM
Sep 2017

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
31. Kaepernick is fighting badly and giving oppression big victories.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 02:28 PM
Sep 2017

If he played football the way he plays politics we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
30. People who have been largely barred from the American dream due to color
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 02:22 PM
Sep 2017

for centuries now have been expected to stand for the pledge of allegiance and respect the flag that has oppressed them, and it is totally justified to make a stand with a gesture of not doing so. It is a legitimate means of protest that required him to put his career on the line. It gives the issue visibility. Sometimes controversy is good. Sometimes it starts conversations. I've had conversations with people because of Kaeperick and BLM and asked them to give me alternative actions that wouldn't have been largely missed or ignored by most Americans. They've failed in every case to offer up an idea.

No, Trump is not eating our lunch on this issue. He's just spewing to his tiny base.

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
19. Absolutely I hope so as well
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:40 PM
Sep 2017

And some team signs Kapernick immediately who is being blacklisted. Or fans boycott till they do.

jimmil

(629 posts)
22. Wouldn't it be great
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 01:10 PM
Sep 2017

If everywhere Trump went all the protesters simply took a knee? Imagine thousands taking a knee in quiet protest to the injustice our people have suffered and to the injustice of Trump and this whole government we now have.

Oh well, just a thought...

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
24. I hope whomever is going to be OUR next president is taking notes.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 01:21 PM
Sep 2017

I expect vicious attacks on Fox news.
Vicious attacks on every conservative organization and PAC.

I love the Obama's, but at this point.. fuck this whole "they go low we go high" bullshit. I want to fucking see them belittled, demeaned, insulted, verbally abused.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
25. He is YOUR boss, you dumbass.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 01:23 PM
Sep 2017

You work for him, not the other way around. As it turns out, you are a very inadequate employee, soon to be fired. (And btw, the White House belongs to We The People. It doesn't have a large T painted on the front door, despite your plans)

rock

(13,218 posts)
29. You know who wants to deny your freedom of speech? (rhetorical)
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 02:00 PM
Sep 2017

Assholes. For the obvious reasons.

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