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Washington (CNN)In the last 24 hours, President Donald Trump has criticized NFL players who refuse to stand for the national anthem and NBA superstar Steph Curry for expressing ambivalence about whether or not to attend the traditional White House celebration for champions in professional sports.
On Friday night in Alabama, Trump condemned football players who either sit or protest in some other way during the national anthem -- and chastised the NFL owners for not coming down harder on them.
"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. He is fired. He's fired!" Trump said to considerable applause from the overwhelmingly white crowd. "Total disrespect of our heritage, a total disrespect of everything that we stand for. Everything that we stand for."
Then, on Saturday morning, Trump tweeted this about Curry: "Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team. Stephen Curry is hesitating, therefore invitation is withdrawn!"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/23/politics/donald-trump-nfl-nba/index.html
Much more at link. This isn't just about the NFL or even police violence anymore.
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)that he's usually been one of those both-sides-do-it types. Maybe Trump is getting to be too much for pretty much everybody who can walk upright and doesn't draw flies.
janx
(24,128 posts)Pro football, basketball, baseball. It's not going to be easy to ignore.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Not only is Cilizza a bothsideist (who wrote 50 stories on HRC's emails, but that's a different story), he is ignorant of history.
He writes this article as if the racism of Nixon and Reagan didn't exist. As if the GOP hasn't been pandering to racists for 40 years.
If you don't learn history you're doomed to repeat it.
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)He doesn't seem like the the type to think at much less think ahead.
The pattern is there, as you pointed out. All he ever does is incite.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)The president did not anticipate Goodell, several NFL owners, LeBron, Stevie Wonder, and MLB players all coming out on the side of Kaepernick.
The president BADLY misjudged this one.
Mr. 27.5 (LeBron's name for him) is going to back down. Or his presidency will break down over this.
janx
(24,128 posts)But I don't know that Trump will back down.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Because this controversy will break him. If pro athletes AND their teams stand against Trump it will sink his presidency.
Let him have his 10% base of hardcore racists. Americans love sports and if all their heroes AND the team billionaire owners tell Americans that 27.5 is toxic it will sink his approval ratings. Once he gets below 28% or so the GOP congress will jump ship and we'll be done.
janx
(24,128 posts)He went so far over the edge in Alabama that he now owns this thing!
inwiththenew
(972 posts)This puts the NFL in a really bad position. I say they weasel out because at the end of the day all they care about is making money.
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/05/30/nfl-last-sports-bastion-of-white-male-conservatives/
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)I'm not saying this situation is guaranteed to blow up in 27.5's face. But I give it 50/50 odds.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)divisive bully. He's an embarrassment to our country and a danger to our country and the world. Take him out with the 25th Amendment
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Should have been
"The dark racial sentiment in Reagan's Neshoba Fair speech"
"The dark racial sentiment in Nixon's Southern Strategy"
"The dark racial sentiment in Reagan's 'young bucks' line"
"The dark racial sentiment in Nixon's deal with Strom Thurmond that caused Panetta to quit"
"The dark racial sentiment in Nixon's War on Drugs, according to Ehrlichman"
Cilizza is about 40 years too late.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)He wasn't even born when Nixon was still in office.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)And is just getting it now. Better late than never.
(And I totally agree with you - Cilizza is a great example for why the US needs to be better at teaching history. He's acting like this GOP racism stuff is new. Has he heard about those guys Nixon and Reagan?)
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Imbecile Bully tries to stir up divisiveness & hate, even war. Truly, he is an evil man. The staff around him need to show some patriotism & get him out under the 25th Amendment.
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)when somebody disrespects our flag
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)Special lineage. Father issues. Early surprise success. Setbacks and enemies and challenges. He is always turned back at first, then pushes through.
He is playing out like a very familiar, very basic narrative. What I dread is the next step; success.
Moses, Hercules, Arthur, Horus, Beowulf. And now Trump?
janx
(24,128 posts)when it comes to Trump.