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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 06:56 AM Sep 2017

Something that has been said over and over again is that

the pResident of the United States has serious mental issues. Those who can do something about it are so hungry for power that each day they turn a blind eye just to keep power in their party. The media parades people who normalize his behavior daily. The world has lost respect. Many Americans fear for where we are headed, and the others love the chaos he creates. Since all the attention was on Paul Manafort, he had to create a distraction like a bully who has been challenged and it worked. Will America ever be the same again? The next President will need lysol to wipe up the mess he leaves.

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raven mad

(4,940 posts)
1. Spouse and I were talking about bullies last night.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 07:18 AM
Sep 2017

His experience proves true. He backed the dude up against a locker. The bully ran. Seriously, ran. I was just down the hall, and my guy is NOT confrontational at all (years ago, in high school incident).

sTrumpet thinks he's powerful. He's a total coward. AND knows it, so uses bully tactics he think will work.

But what it says about folks who voted for him is really scary.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
4. Exactly! Underneath that bluster is a weak little man. He fits the stereotype of a typical bully that
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:09 AM
Sep 2017

acts like an ass all the time to cover up their insecurities.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
12. "But what it says about folks who voted for him is really scary."
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:35 AM
Sep 2017

That's where the real problem lies.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
2. Never ceases to amaze me...
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 07:59 AM
Sep 2017

....how a considerable sector of the human race worldwide seem to crave a powerful, symbolic leader without regards to that person's character, knowledge, or even sanity. All that's required, it seems, is (pick your race's color) skin, steely eyes, a big square jaw, a suit & tie with huge shoulder pads, an authoritative voice, and a line of bullshit a mile long. I think it has been that way throughout recorded history.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
9. Perhaps goes back to our innate insecurity with life...
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:28 AM
Sep 2017

...and fear of death. Save us, preacher man, save us!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. +1000
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 09:54 AM
Sep 2017

Key word there is "symbolic". Trump is a paper tiger. In reality he is a sniveling little coward. I would like nothing more than to see someone with REAL, personal power and integrity to stand up to him and show him to be the weak, pathetic shell of a man he is.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
17. Agreed, but who would that be?
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:00 AM
Sep 2017

Power and integrity together has almost become an oxymoron, at least in politics. I can think of a few in the US that have the integrity, but not the power. Some of those like Carter have spoken, but mostly to deaf ears. It's a sad and bazaar irony that Putin could probably damage him as much as anyone (no integrity but lots of power).

What's amazing to me though, is the fascination and blind loyalty that those of this peculiar mindset (usually in conservative ranks) have with that symbolic figure. It seems the image of "dear leader" becomes an object to endear and worship, much like a statue of Christ , Virgin Mary or the Buddha. And, as in religion, it becomes a herd mentality.

Some psychologists say that folks of this mindset build a mental structure of authoritarian hierarchy and once it's built, it cannot be disturbed. One of the most extreme examples we've witnessed is that of Ronald Reagan. He fit into their structure of authoritarianism perfectly, since there had been a huge void for them after Nixon fell.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. I don't know if there would ever be the opportunity, but I would like to see someone like
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:05 AM
Sep 2017

Al Franken or Kamala Harris take him to task. He couldn't hold a candle to either one of them in battle of strength or intelligence.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. The wealthy ultraconservatives funding the GOP are pursuing their goals through Rump.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:08 AM
Sep 2017

By influence on a pathologically incompetent president, they have maneuvered their people into the vice presidency, onto the supreme court, into most of his cabinet positions, and into many other lower positions and judgeships. They have also persuaded him to adopt many of their policies and commit, as much as is possible for such a disordered mind, to their destructive anti-government agenda.

His election was a trumpster voter rebellion against their control, but a pathetically stupid one that they are making the most of.

Rump is being blamed by many for the failure of their agents in congress to gut social programs, but that one's really on their own overweaning greed and callousness. For years they managed to delude voters into transferring our nation's wealth and power to them and into cluelessly supporting the destruction of all the social programs they grew up with, but they have to make them want to jump off that cliff now that they're finally able to realize it's right in front of them. And that's a problem for them.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
6. Well said.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:14 AM
Sep 2017

Early on in the Republican primaries a group of radicals saw that Trump was going to beat the rest of the Republicans. They used Trumps mental deficiencies in a way that out them on the inside of his campaign.

This goes against the grain here but I consider Bannon to be a great personal strategist(not political). His rise to one of the most influential people in the country was amazing. What he didn't see is that Trumps personal instability, which is one of the reasons for Bannons great rise, was also a reason it was destine to fail for Bannon. Many ultra conservatives attached themselves to an unstable man who completely lacks impulse control.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
8. text RESIST to 50409 to send ( so far unlimited) faxes to your...
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:22 AM
Sep 2017

..state reps begging them to start impeachment proceedings asap. Use whatever crime trumps committed as an excuse. I used the impending war with NK that will result in American lives lost because of trumps incompetence...

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
13. a pox on all voters who thought this was a good idea.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:38 AM
Sep 2017

"the next President" those words seem a long way off. I doubt there will be a next president.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
15. He will be gone sooner than later.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 09:51 AM
Sep 2017

The GOP isn't going to keep him once they realize he's a liability to them politically. The rest of us want him gone for the good of the country and the world. And he will go, and become a footnote.

The real challenge is to make sure this doesn't happen again.

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