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Just finished tonight's episode of The Vietnam War. 1968. (Original Post) TheMightyFavog Sep 2017 OP
I went to JFK's funeral. I was in college. pangaia Sep 2017 #1
Where is Trump this week? Maybe you should visit there! csziggy Sep 2017 #5
HA HA!! pangaia Sep 2017 #7
I saw it too, I have been watching every episode. muntrv Sep 2017 #2
We've never really recovered from 1968 😓 Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #3
68 was a tough year to get through.... spanone Sep 2017 #4
Circling the moon was about my only good memory from 1968 unc70 Sep 2017 #6
Taping it, but can't yet bring myself to watch whathehell Sep 2017 #8
I am watching the 1961-1963 episode..the 2nd ep/ dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #21
Yes, that's before all the dying started.. whathehell Sep 2017 #27
Football is KING in the South. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #30
That's interesting.. whathehell Sep 2017 #32
Oh lordy....so sorry.... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #34
No problem!..It happens to everybody whathehell Sep 2017 #36
1968 was a terrible year. I was 19 and my entire soul was forged that year. I sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #9
1968 also saw guys coming home and joining VVAW Warpy Sep 2017 #10
We knew the Gov't was lying in 1963. and '64 dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #22
I was a few years younger than you were Warpy Sep 2017 #24
I remember those years all too well. Scruffy1 Sep 2017 #26
Viet Nam was a quagmire GP6971 Sep 2017 #11
Nostradamus you are not. former9thward Sep 2017 #14
I did that to GP6971 Sep 2017 #15
At least during Reagan, I lived on the coast Warpy Sep 2017 #16
Nothing wrong with that. former9thward Sep 2017 #25
Seems you place as much faith in your own prophecy as he did in his... LanternWaste Sep 2017 #33
I live in CA and it isn't on yet...did they cover the BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #12
Covered Tet and LBJ's annoucement. sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #13
Thanks...I can't record it. I have studied Vietnam since BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #17
I had a bumper sticker that said "Vietnam - love it or leave it" world wide wally Sep 2017 #18
Very cool! BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #19
I had a Peace sign with the American flag inside on my VW mitch96 Sep 2017 #28
Somebody peeled off my sticker while I was in class (freshman year) world wide wally Sep 2017 #29
65 was damn bad. Really the last 5 years of the 1960's sucked except for the music. Jim Beard Sep 2017 #20
1968 is when it all blew apart, domestically. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #23
I went over in September 1967... kentuck Sep 2017 #31
I have a much deeper empathy and understanding of my first husband now. erinlough Sep 2017 #35

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. I went to JFK's funeral. I was in college.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 09:34 PM
Sep 2017

Then I was in Memphis when MLK was assassinated.
I had played a jazz gig the night before downtown.

My sister was in LA when Bobby was assassinated.




muntrv

(14,505 posts)
2. I saw it too, I have been watching every episode.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 09:42 PM
Sep 2017

US had no chance, between M16s jamming or fighting in the highlands where the enemy was hiding.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
6. Circling the moon was about my only good memory from 1968
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 09:49 PM
Sep 2017

I have yet to screw up my courage to begin watching this series. Just one damn thing after another.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. I am watching the 1961-1963 episode..the 2nd ep/
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:36 PM
Sep 2017

Sure brings back memories, plus more information than I had at the time.
Spent 1964 down here in Ala.

All of the pushback on Trump, via the "take teh knee" this week, makes me feel hopeful.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
27. Yes, that's before all the dying started..
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:35 AM
Sep 2017

so that may be easier to watch.

I'm very happy to see the NFL pushback on Trump...How it might translate to political action to get rid of him, I don't know.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
30. Football is KING in the South.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:01 AM
Sep 2017

Down here they don't ask about your religion, or even your political stance. They DO ask which football teams (s) you root for.
It is the one thing that trumps Trump.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
32. That's interesting..
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:54 PM
Sep 2017

but my post is about Vietnam, so I suspect you're responding to the wrong poster.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
9. 1968 was a terrible year. I was 19 and my entire soul was forged that year. I
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:03 PM
Sep 2017

also got married in July '68. I point to Bobby's murder as my turning point. Cast aside both the politics and religion of my family that year. Started protesting.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
10. 1968 also saw guys coming home and joining VVAW
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:10 PM
Sep 2017

because Tet was proof positive that MacNamara and the Pentagon insiders were lying about that war every single step of the way. It wasn't too long after that that LBJ said he'd had enough lies and refused to run again. It was a pure shitshow of a year and even being young didn't help.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. We knew the Gov't was lying in 1963. and '64
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:11 AM
Sep 2017

I was 18 in Nov. 1963, got married in Dec. after my then husband finished boot camp and had orders to train for a year at Ft. Rucker, Ala, helicopter school, so we moved down here to Ala. for all of 1964.
People talk in the military, and it was no secret at all that he was going to Viet Nam Jan 1965, that it WAS going to involve shooting and fighting with teh helicopters.
Yet Kennedy said, in late 1963, there were only "advisors" in Nam, the number was sorta kept secret but Burns says, in the series, 16,000 in 1963.

turned out to be lucky for us there was not as much fighting as there was in '68 when my poor brother was sent over there.

all that "advisor" bullshit, and "no boots on the ground" bs that has been fed to us about Iraq, about Afghanistan, etc. all these years is just a repeat of Nam. Gov't has zero credibility about who we invade.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
24. I was a few years younger than you were
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:23 AM
Sep 2017

but the only time I ditched school was to stand silent vigil with the Quakers once a week. It was the only anti Vietnam thing going on when I did it. Lunch and study hall seemed less important.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
26. I remember those years all too well.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:27 AM
Sep 2017

Voicee of reaon were squelched and deemed unpatriotic. I lost friends. The same old crap played over again in 2003. The media was complicit then and complicit now. It seems in America you can sell them anything and get away with anything as long as you keep the proles entertained with sports and celebrity gossip.

GP6971

(31,163 posts)
11. Viet Nam was a quagmire
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:12 PM
Sep 2017

much as Afghanistan is. What awaits us under Dolt45 is will quick death for many of us. After the election I told my SIL that we'll all be dead within 2 years.

former9thward

(32,017 posts)
14. Nostradamus you are not.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:21 PM
Sep 2017

We will all be here, minus normal death rates, in two years. I heard the same nonsense in 1981 when Reagan took office.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
16. At least during Reagan, I lived on the coast
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:29 PM
Sep 2017

I went to the marina and picked out the seaworthy ketch I was going to steal when shit got too real.

former9thward

(32,017 posts)
25. Nothing wrong with that.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:13 AM
Sep 2017

I believe in being prepared. But I think a natural event is the most likely cause of a sudden mass human calamity, not a human caused one.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
33. Seems you place as much faith in your own prophecy as he did in his...
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:14 PM
Sep 2017

"Nostradamus you are not. We will all be here.."

Seems you place as much faith in your own prophecy as he did in his. No doubt, we all of us defend fortune-telling as an absolute when it's our own and strokes our wee bias...

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
12. I live in CA and it isn't on yet...did they cover the
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:16 PM
Sep 2017

Tet Offensive and/or My Lai? I have been watching the series and anticipate that this will/must be covered.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
17. Thanks...I can't record it. I have studied Vietnam since
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:33 PM
Sep 2017

I was 17 (1979) in High School then college and have been anti-war since. I think that is one reason I feel compelled to do whatever I can to understand and stop anything like it from happening again in my lifetime.

I still have my "STOP THE DRAFT" button from my first (of many)protests from 1979 when Carter wanted to reinstate the draft.

mitch96

(13,907 posts)
28. I had a Peace sign with the American flag inside on my VW
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:36 AM
Sep 2017

Came out one day and the window was broken.... grrrrr..
I graduated high school in '68.. Some friends went over there, some did not come back alive.. Very hard to watch this documentary... So many stories, I'm still PISSED over the lies the politicians told us and I'm very wary of what ever war these oligarchs want to get us in...
M

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
20. 65 was damn bad. Really the last 5 years of the 1960's sucked except for the music.
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:01 PM
Sep 2017

I didn't obey anyone over 25 and to this day I am chastised because I didn't serve. I watched another PBS program, Battlefield Vietnam and that is all I need. The shock of John Kennedy (AND yes, there were snide remarks from republicans then.)

Everybody was lying to each other.

My college advisor said I must take ROTC (Rot-c) I did 2 years and that was enough. After that you voluntary signed up as cannon fodder. I didn't.

Anyway, I wasn't healthy enough to be killed.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. 1968 is when it all blew apart, domestically.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:27 AM
Sep 2017

The Age of Aquarius indeed.
The entire country was going thru a tremendous metamorphoses, esp. on the West Coat, where I was at the time.
It was pretty intense, on a daily basis, and also hell in "Nam at the time.

A lot of us went thru great personal change in a very short time. I remember there was so much energy, so much challenge of the status quo on a lot of fronts.
the Gov't lost the country after Chicago Democratic Convention riots, when the cops went so crazy.
It felt like then like it feels now, with trump....we are approaching another crisis, another huge change in direction in this country.
I am encouraged at all the rapid pushback to his insane comments and ideas.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
31. I went over in September 1967...
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:05 AM
Sep 2017

and second tour was over in April 69...I spent the year of '68 in 'Nam.

erinlough

(2,176 posts)
35. I have a much deeper empathy and understanding of my first husband now.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:36 PM
Sep 2017

We met and married in 74 he had come home from Vietnam in 70. He was in Siagon in 68. He suffered from undiagnosed ptsd all during our time together. We rarely spoke about his service. My son says he only began talking about it in the last ten years. I’m so glad he has. He is a good man, a brave man and what he must have seen and gone through makes me sad, but gives me a sense of why he was so tormented. Thank you to all the service members from my generation for their service.

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