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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKen Burns Vietnam just mentioned Nixon's treason.
Sabotaging peace talks.
House of Roberts
(5,177 posts)I also wondered if they would cover that.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)The GOP used the same playbook against President Carter and the Iranian Hostage Crisis in 1980. Treasonous thugs!
lastlib
(23,244 posts)...then giving the proceeds to the fucking Contras. TREASON, Count #2. . .
And don't forget the Bushies outing a CIA operative!
Republikkkans--the Party of Treason.
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)that I never knew before. And I look at Nixon and see similarities with Trump.
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)So many deaths on both sides.......and for what?? NOTHING.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)The GOP has a long track record of diss honorable statements and actions that undermine American democracy
Greywing
(1,124 posts)Trump needs to be knocked repeatedly down to his knees before destroying him.
blue neen
(12,321 posts)This whole "Vietnam" Series has been eye-opening and stunning.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, our so-called leaders still haven't learned...
we can do it
(12,189 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Which, if one hasn't seen, they should. It' available to stream on PBS's web page, along with most of Burns' other documentaries.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I'm watching it again... so much info to absorb.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)coverage is unreal... Walter Cronkite lamenting that's it's beginning in a police state... it's shocking.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)and I remember watching the body bags on the nightly news. Not fully understanding but opinion being shaped...
raccoon
(31,111 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Gymbo
(133 posts)The info that LBJ knew Nixon betrayed the U.S. was not anywhere as painful when I learned he didn't do anything with it. Humphrey could have won the election and Vietnam would have shut down in Months.I will never forgive LBJ for that.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)that the Nixon campaign was in contact with Saigon to sabotage peace talks? I'm trying to understand Johnson's reticence because of the methods used (CIA and FBI wiretaps and bugs) but as Johnson said and Republican Dirksen agreed, the campaign's actions were treasonous.
Gymbo
(133 posts)I can't say positively, but HR Haldeman's notes were declassified just prior to that article and it was the first I had ever heard of it.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)RobinA
(9,893 posts)in Clark Clifford's memoir. If I remember correctly, at the time he wrote about it (1991) he stated that it was known but they couldn't prove it definitely. He seemed to have no doubt that it actually happened and even discussed how it happened. I'm not sure when it got proven.
Tactical Peek
(1,210 posts)But the proof, the docs and tapes, were not discovered until several years ago in the LBJ library, thanks to Robert Parry iirc.
LBJs X File on Nixons Pre-Election Deal With Saigon
By Beverly Deepe Keever
11/22/2013
http://www.historynet.com/lbjs-x-file-on-nixons-pre-election-deal-with-saigon.htm
LBJs X File on Nixons Treason
by Robert Parry
March 3, 2012
https://consortiumnews.com/2012/03/03/lbjs-x-file-on-nixons-treason/
It is sometimes mentioned that the Watergate break-in might have been targeting information about the peace talk treason evidence, to defend against October surprises etc.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I'll be reading up on this. In the meantime, I'm bracing myself for tonight's episode...
TygrBright
(20,760 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)for 10 weeks over three or four sides sitting at a square table.
RobinA
(9,893 posts)remember that and I was only 10. Given that year and all that went on, to a child at the time it didn't seem at all odd, just par for the course.
G_j
(40,367 posts)the little October surprise few are aware of..
Haven't seen it yet, but that is impressive.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)Always conspiring with foreign powers to cheat in elections. Nixon was truly a POS. I have nothing redeeming to say about him.
diva77
(7,643 posts)another stolen seat on the SC
Kaleva
(36,309 posts)diva77
(7,643 posts)chief justice -- so we're both correct!!
Kaleva
(36,309 posts)You are far more correct then I was!
burrowowl
(17,641 posts)prosecuted for treason.
Both Johnson and Obama copped out at critical times.
RobinA
(9,893 posts)copped out at a critical time. After he announced he wasn't running he still refused to stop bombing. I would like to see an analysis of that decision, given that his decision not to run would seem to take his own political future as motivation off the table.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Never thought I'd ever think Nixon would be better than whatever president we have.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Thom Hartmann has played a tape of LBJ detailing this in a phone conversation with I think Everett Dirkson....who agreed with LBJ.
I watchd the first two episode and hen just ordered the whole thing on Blu Ray from PBS....which benefits PBS, they deserve our support.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)But overall, he did a terrific job. I'm glad future generations will at least get a glimpse of what a traitor Nixon was.