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https://thinkprogress.org/nfl-dod-national-anthem-6f682cebc7cd/What the president failed to acknowledge in his rant was that many of the military displays present at NFL games were, at one time, financed by the government. Rather than organic, wholesome expressions of patriotism the kind Trump has claimed NFL players are disrespectfully protesting the tradition of players standing for the national anthem is a recent tradition that may have coincided with a marketing ploy meant to sell cheap, manufactured nationalism.
As recently as 2015, the Department of Defense was doling out millions to the NFL for such things as military flyovers, flag unfurlings, emotional color guard ceremonies, enlistment campaigns, and interestingly enough national anthem performances. Additionally, according to Vice, the NFLs policy on players standing for the national anthem also changed in 2009, with athletes encouraged thereafter to participate. Prior to that, teams were not given any specific instructions on the matter; some chose to remain in the locker room until after opening ceremonies were completed. (Its unclear whether the policy change was implemented as a direct result of any Defense Department contracts.)
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On Monday, actor and civil rights activist Jesse Williams took a similar tone, blasting the president for criticizing those players who had chosen to take a knee.
This anthem thing is a scam. This is not actually part of football. This was invented in 2009 by the government paying the NFL to market military recruitment, to get more people to go off and fight wars to die, he said in an interview with MSNBC. This has nothing to do with the NFL or American pastime or tradition.
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What a sacred and hallowed tradition!
EDIT: changed headline
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,005 posts)And flags kept out in rain and at night with no light on them, per proper flag etiquette.
Too many people are reflex patriots who think you can set it and forget it. Especially forget about the troops who come home injured, including PTSD.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,005 posts)woodsprite
(11,916 posts)All my life where we've stood with our hand on our heart while the National anthem was played or sung, so the standing part predates that 2009 in the article. In 1992, I sang with a group that performed it for a Phillies game, and everyone stood.
Lochloosa
(16,066 posts)I was sure I heard it playing while under the bleachers smoking a joint at my High School games.
That was in the early 70's. So we got to do fun things like that.
bluepen
(620 posts)It caught my eye because Ive been going to college football games for decades and weve always done it. Im not into pro football, so when I saw the headline I thought: What, theyve only been doing that for eight years?
The article is about the players standing, not the fans. (Although, to be honest, I have my doubts about the veracity of the entire article.)
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)bluepen
(620 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)...when did ppl start doing it for the national anthem?
Madam Mossfern
(2,340 posts)Jarqui
(10,126 posts)was not misconstrued with what the Nazis or other totalitarians were doing
I don't think the Star Spangled banner became the national anthem until the early 1930s. So what did Trumps ancestors do for the first 150+ years since 1776?
Such BS
tblue37
(65,403 posts)doing anything with the American flag. Oh, and his mother was a Scottish immigrant.
It's just a steaming pile of BS so he can feel good about himself at the country club, where in his mind, people of color working there are just paid slaves - who should kneel down to him - not some lowly flag.
Orrex
(63,215 posts)TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/05/454834662/pentagon-paid-sports-teams-millions-for-paid-patriotism-events
There does not seem to be a connection from this to the claim about the 2009 change though - but there are way too much flashing of uncalled patriotism in your country.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)It's like school prayer that has nothing to do with education. Just don't do it.
KG
(28,751 posts)jin·go·ism
ˈjiNGɡōˌizəm noun derogatory
extreme patriotism, especially in the form of aggressive or warlike foreign policy.
synonyms: extreme patriotism, chauvinism, extreme nationalism, xenophobia, flag-waving; More
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Called for the National Anthem to be played at all games.
"President Herbert Hoover signed a bill into law making "The Star-Spangled Banner" the official anthem of the U.S. in 1931, giving the country a national anthem for the first time.
During the World War II era, with the addition of sound systems that allowed the playing of recorded music at ball games, the performance became standard and moved from the seventh-inning stretch to the beginning of the game, Ferris has said. The tradition spread to football games, too.At the end of the war, after Japan announced it would surrender, NFL Commissioner Elmer Layden called for all of the league's teams to play "The Star-Spangled Banner" at their games, arguing, The National Anthem should be as much a part of every game as the kick-off. We must not drop it simply because the war is over. We should never forget what it stands for."
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)And even the quoted text indicates that any connection is simply speculation.
Lee-Lee
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Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)sacrifice to elevate the military's authority in this country. Our military is becoming a never-ending challenge to a country that believes in equality and free speech. We have to face off, not just against the military propaganda, but the officers who go through the program believing they're gods.
I know it was 2009 when this practice began in the football fields, but that autocratic belief has a strong racist pattern, in my opinion. If you think about it, the draft during the Vietnam War forced two demographics together. You had young black soldiers who were inducted as privates and you had a higher preponderance of white officers, many who would never have to reevaluate the racist beliefs of superiority that they learned from their red origins. How many of those white officers ever saw minorities as anything but subordinates? Their entire career was reinforced by the visual reminder that their officer's clubs had few minorities eating dinner on the next table over. And when minorities started to show up in force, they only had to deal with them on a one on one basis.
And these are the people who retire into our red Florida communities and people think they're going to make good community leaders? No wonder our red counties are still stuck in the 50s.
malaise
(269,053 posts)Further that this is being pushed by a five time a draft-dodging racist scumbag is more than I can tolerate.