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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:00 PM Sep 2017

Puerto Rico Needs a Massive Airlift Effort

It is going to be a long time before Puerto Rico recovers its infrastructure assets. In the meantime, the entire island and its population needs equipment, supplies and services. Many thousands of people need to be evacuated from the island for proper health care and other needs, or they may die.

The United States government should mount a massive airlift of supplies and a matching massive airlift to evacuate those who have genuine need for evacuation to the United States. Military and chartered cargo and passenger aircraft should be making continuous loop flights to Puerto Rico to accommodate those needs. This is a job that should be done using government resources, and it should already be underway.

Tell Donald Trump to get off his ass and make this happen. He has already waited too long!

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. I don't know for certain about all of them.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:07 PM
Sep 2017

If not, they soon will be. The main airport in San Juan, however, is open. Military teams could be dispatched to get others opened up on the island, as well.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. Even if they weren't the military has the means to make them so
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:42 PM
Sep 2017

Even if an airport doesn't have the infrastructure available to make it fully operational, as long as the runway is intact, planes can land and take off. The military has generators, radar, communication, mobile control towers, and everything else needed to establish a forward air base all of which is air transportable. It would take a maximum of two days to make the airport fully operational and in the mean time they could still use it on a less than fully operational basis.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. According to the US Government...
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:08 PM
Sep 2017

...the airports/airfields are too damaged for the military to launch a massive airlift effort!


And the DHS refuses to waive the Jones Act so that non-US flagged ships can bring in supplies and equipment, because the ports cannot handle the amount of incoming vessels!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Then, we should be sending people and equipment to
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:15 PM
Sep 2017

get those airports up and running ASAP. Put our military resources on it and get moving. We have those capabilities. We should be using them to maximum effect, I believe.

Puerto Rico is part of the United States of America. Time to get on the stick.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
6. Their radar systems have been decimated.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:22 PM
Sep 2017

Pilots are essentially flying blind.

Too much air traffic right now is a recipe for disaster.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. The Air Force has ATC equipment that can be transported.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:41 PM
Sep 2017

They really do. I wonder if it's on its way yet.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. Here's What the Military Has That Can Help:
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:18 PM
Sep 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_Engineer_Deployable_Heavy_Operational_Repair_Squadron_Engineers

The Red Horse team is designed for just such situations, and is equipped to do things like emergency airport repairs, etc. We have capabilities that are not being used.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
9. Military has repaired radar at SJ International
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:40 PM
Sep 2017

Yesterday I read a long article listing which groups are on the ground in PR with a long list of C-17, C-130, etc. flights with their men and material payloads. Also listed were how much of various types of supplies. Several days back they had delivered over 6 million liters of water. That is a lot, but a mere drop in the bucket when dealing with over 3 million people.

There are roughly four thousand US military now in PR, not counting those aboard ship.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
15. They are also operating in the US Virgin Islands.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 01:04 PM
Sep 2017

It's like some just don't get the scope of what happened and the logistics involved.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
13. brother in law flew army blackhawks during haitian earthquate
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:44 PM
Sep 2017

off a navy carrier

know this cause when he landed on the carrier he was given a patch with the carrier insignia on it which he gave to one of my kids.

think that place was an island too

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
14. Ships not planes are key and they require operational ports.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:44 PM
Sep 2017

Per Coast Guard Admiral...

Federal officials say the reopening of ports is key to disaster recovery because ships can carry far more cargo than aircraft. Brown said air relief often has a more dramatic appearance, but ships are necessary for a humanitarian crisis of this scale.

“An island like Puerto Rico or St. Thomas is fed and supplied by the sea. Ultimately the mass of response is going to come by sea, and getting the ports open is the single best thing the Coast Guard can do to get Puerto Rico back on its feet,” said Brown, who as 7th District commander oversees operations in the islands.

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