Even when the Democrats get the most votes (virtually every recent election) the Republicans still pick up more seats thanks to RedMap.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/ratfcked-the-influence-of-redistricting/amp

ALL of them need dealing with ASAP.

...and, f*ck, we got SLAMMED!

the recent study/report about how the voter ID law in WI depressed turnout and kept people from voting is another straw on the camel's back.

[link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wisconsin-voter-id_us_59ca6e60e4b01cc57ff5bdd5|

Eventually, something has to give. At least I hope so.

And I’ll bet 2018 and 2020 are already targeted and vulnerable to repeat performances. Between gerrymandering, homegrown election rigging/manipulation and "Russification" I am very doubtful about "throwing the bums out" in the upcoming elections. Election integrity is crucial and we can no longer rely on what we once accepted as a "normal" process. The Russians know it. The Republicans know it. The drastic dimensions of what happened in 2016 are still not fully appreciated or understood by many in the USA.

I have zero doubt that Repugs are working on dirty stunts to tilt elections in their favor, and I am quite sure Dems are NOT doing enough to prevent it! We Dems have got to come out in force to protect election integrity in the coming cycle--it needs to be an all-hands, full-court press on the powers that be to shut down the GOPee theft machine.

And although Putin probably achieved his main objective in defeating Hillary Clinton and installing their mole tRump in the WH, I have no doubt they still have an interest in "keeping the pot stirred" and undermining our election process still further in the future. Repugs likely have little interest in stopping them, even an incentive to encourage it, if not to outright actively encourage it. It's scary.

We can't even get a bipartisan commission together to look at Russian interference because repugs won't admit there is a problem. Sadly, I think 2018 is going to be a bust for us.

She talks about how since the election, young women have come up to her to apologize for not voting for her or not voting at all. In some cases, they've been dragged by their mothers to apologize. Clinton says they seem to looking for absolution, but that she can't give it.

People who vote against their own self interests make me furious.

I have realized that I am a selective misogynist since I dislike the women misogynists who didn't vote for her since she is a woman.

I remember being appalled when I read, shortly after the election, that 52% of white women voted for Trump (my own demographic!) I know a lot of those were Republicans, but still...they voted for a man who bragged about sexual assault, who stated that "you have to treat women like shit," who consistently rates women based on appearance. I could go on; there are too many instances of his misogyny to quote here.

As for that 52%; did they hate Hillary Clinton so much that they voted for THAT?

It infuriates me. I just want to smack these people upside the head and ask them what the fuck is wrong with them.

the day after the election, as a baby boomer, i found myself tearfully apologizing to young women at a Starbucks. i felt, and still believe, my generation fucked this country up badly.

i think i could thank them for apologizing without giving them the peace of mind they seek. that will take action to make it right going forward.

While some love having a narcissist and white supremacist in the White House, people with a conscience do not. Anyone who didn't vote for Clinton and isn't a bigot or sociopath is naturally going to have regrets. Of course, those who enjoy seeing the poor and marginalized suffer will not. They voted, either directly or indirectly, for a man who reflects their values. That some of them are sanctimonious about what they unleashed only provides further evidence of their sociopathy.

I'm not sure I understand your point. You're suggesting that Hillary made this up?

The same way that those who sought to "punish" President Obama by saddling him with a GOP Congress.

It's not about Hillary.

It wasn't about President Obama.

Time and time again, he tried to explain to people that THEY had the power to change.

He tried repeatedly to warn people not to "give the keys back" to the GOP to drive the country into a ditch.

And for both of them, it wasn't about voting to help them personally.

They will both be fine no matter what socioeconomic horrors the GOP manages to inflict, as will many other people with means.

But they tried to get voters to vote for their own good. And too many voters were too ignorant, ill-informed or apathetic to heed the warnings.

well said.

and/or the "elites" that they voted to harm others rather than to help themselves.

it must be exasperating.

For some people, the election must have felt like this was once in a lifetime, and a very obvious choice. Others seem to think "maybe next time" or wait for someone better to come along who may not even exist and is wishful thinking.

pretends to speak out against false equalization even while he does it? I'm so tired of these dishonorable scoundrels.

that a majority of white women voters (53%) voted for Trump.

The question is, what are we going to do about it?

tend to be more religious and I can tell you, in the Midwest (where most of my relatives/in-laws are) the churches are very clear that voting for anyone without an R after their name is a one-way ticket to hell.

. . . that any one of them attempting to influence political decisions or push GOP agenda loses their tax-exempt status.

status, even though the times I've gone to church with the in-laws (ugh, Wisconsin Synod Lutheran) their preachers are literally going on and on about the evils of liberalism.

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I took a Woman and Politics course, through the Center for American Woman and Politics.

45% voted against the ERA and it's been a solid 45% since then.

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about WHY?

i know at least 30% of the population is authoritarian, whether dominant or passive, but that does not explain that many women willing to concede life choices to someone else. let alone vote for a known sexual predator/pervert who hates their guts.

Just look at the machinations that many of the Evangelicals perform to justify their faith and control others. There is no real way to overcome this influence. Regardless of the cases and proof shown, they are not interested in listening. Many Conservatives, and this includes orthodox faiths, are content with paternalism.

You can present Trump, completely unvarnished, and they find ways to accept him. Not because they generally agree, but because he represents anti-abortionists and the old school mentality, they are accustomed to. Trump is the devil that will deliver the church directives. That is why so many clergy are in his court, not because they agree with him, but because Trump is maleable and will deliver on objectives that would not be seen in a Democrat presidency. Just look at how the GOP congresswomen mainly vote paternalism.

I know it's a tough concept to grasp, as it flies in the face of reality. But, they are not going to change anytime soon.

all sorts of things that fly in the face of equality. But they're not interested in equality - - they want to be raptured. So they don't care about the here and now.

Religion is generally a cancer.

i know a couple. related to them in fact. they're not evangelicals but they are conservative. whatever the hell that's supposed to mean these days.

She said Hillary was a "pox on America". She considers herself progressive, but she was raised in Oklahoma so take that with a grain of salt.

any more. they're still knocking her. my belief is that 30+ years of propaganda from the right was eventually absorbed by some on the left. nobody has ever gotten a worse rap than Hillary imo. 2nd is Jimmy Carter.

I voted for Hillary.

AND I voted for Jimmy. Twice!!!

(ETA: I voted for Jimmy in two different elections ... just in case there is some lurker who wants to accuse me of voter fraud.)

and what a different world it would be if he had won the 2nd time. what a better world.

Many women are more "comfortable," shall we say, with a man in charge, even though they may not admit or realize that they feel that way.

Sometimes women are their own worst enemies. Look at all the women who voted for Trump. Hard to explain that.

Doesn't matter that it's the woman's own car. I have had women, mere acquaintances mind you, ask me to drive anyway.

IDK why - I'm not a particularly great driver although I've not been in an accident in many years.

Most of these females are progressive too as I rarely associate with Cons of either sex.

Odd.

I'm not sure MY insurance covers another driver. It would have to be the driver's insurance, of which I know nothing?

For instance, I'm in Florida and my auto insurance covers me no matter where I am or who I'm with or what I drive. No fault insurance here and that's another thing...

There's insurance for this, insurance for that, a real hodge-podge of different insurance regulations across the USA. Now they want to let insurance companies sell medical across state lines.

I wish somebody else would drive. About the only time I get a break is when I take a cab, like in NYC, lol.

sitting in the right seat, desperate to be in control. That might explain some of it.

I'm perfectly happy to let someone else drive for a change as long as they are sober.

Some people are just control freaks.

My MIL wouldn't fly or let anyone else drive. Ever.

but then i was blindsided, shocked, and distraught on 08 November 2016...it's not that easy for me to be optimistic any more.

eom

One smart lady!!

I'm unable to get away from feeling utter contempt for them. Too many of them are gullible and so famed naive as to be actually a few light years down beneath contempt.

I honestly expect too many of them to get rolled again in 2018 and 2020. I've never hoped to be proven wrong on ANYTHING as much as this.

Michelle Obama is right. But too many Americans are just beyond help, it seems.

They made it sound like Donnie's scandals were merely "controversial" or "not politics as usual" or "outsider" stuff. Maybe "remarkable".

Whereas hillary's scandals were covered as if she were a national security threat, a criminal, a liar, a negligent public official, or worse.

Not remotely equal.

by a woman cursing and giving us the finger for our Bernie and Hillary stickers on my daughter's car. She had Trump stickers on her car. Another woman her own age with an infant and toddler in car seats, and Granny next to her?

What the H is wrong with you? We are just like you. If you do not care about other women, you don't care about BABIES either?

Trumettes are just as insane as their men.

Living in Seattle and talking to leftist or left-Leaning women who “safely” didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton, Washington being a blue state and all, is a surreal experience. I’ve never heard one single fact based reason come out. I’ve heard about her hair, her voice, her getting teary when she conceded to Obama “but she was crying because she LOST”—one friend explained. I’ve heard “I don’t trust her” ask them why, and presto! One is no longer involved in a fact based conversation.

I'm hoping that it inspires the country to wake the fuck up in 2018 and 2020. Fox News lied to them. Trump lied to them. The billionaire assholes lied to them. Enough is enough.

There are always those who vote because they have been convinced they need to be afraid of someone or something who will harm them. Oh and then there's the racist thing.

He made it very clear exactly who he is.

The question is how many women really think? My mother, a devoted Catholic Republican always told me I thought too much, which is probably why I ended up a Humanist Democrat.

My mother voted Republican, voted for both Bushes, but I can't imagine that she'd have voted for Trump. Back in 2008, she told me that she liked candidate Obama - but then she found out he was a Democrat.

Her name is Lisa and she is an angry asshole from suburban San Diego who thinks the protesting athletes are the worst thing ever, heroin users need to be round-up and shot and that Jerry Brown is basically Stalin.

She is H.L. Hunt with breasts and blonde hair.

Because we're this close to Charlie Koch taking over and the billionaire freaks installing Trump as DICK-tator. We might end up with another Holocaust. I've been warning people since Trump slithered into the White House -

About the private for-profit prisons springing up to house the 11 million people the Trump 'administration' wants to round up.

About the white nationalists, klan and nazis who have gotten a pass from Trump to ooze out from under their rocks with their brown shirts and automatic weapons.

About the resurgence of overt racism.

About the constant efforts of the right wing (Koch and his ALEC-guided radical libertarian stealth party) to chain the American people to unrestrained capitalism.

So, I'll tell you all that I totally, so totally hope I'm wrong. Because, if there are more elections and we put sane people into office and get this nation back on track, I will cheerfully and publicly eat a big plate of crow. God, I hope I'm wrong.

Trump is their voice, their hateful and inarticulate voice.

I've been saying that since Nixon was impeached. It's steadily gotten much worse since then. I won't ever underestimate the stupidity of the American voter again.

Unfortunately, too much damage to the country has already been done and continues. The best I can hope for is that the dems stymie the repubs in congress as best they can. Then I hope that the dems can take control of congress in the 2018 elections. And, finally, either remove Drumpf by impeachment or beat him in the 2020 election.

Must have been low information voters who voted for Drumpf. I can say that I was never influenced directly or indirectly by any propaganda or fake news in the 2016 election. That is why I am troubled by what that election says about our democracy and its population.