"...the right is investing in a story line about Warren that is practically indistinguishable from the one they peddled for years about Clinton. And even in these early days, some of that narrative is finding its way into mainstream coverage of Warren, and in lefty reactions to it."

stories gain traction is if the MSM start repeating to the Nth degree like they did to Hillary. True liberals won't buy it but 3rd party and the sick righties will.

No reason to think the same thing won't happen again.

and I think of the president we could have had.

who had up until then talked about her as someone they would totes vote for.

that I saw of Warren.

Not by a long shot. Where did you see this?

Plenty of liberals I know personally bought the BS about Hillary wholesale, particularly during the election and there was no getting through to them. It had gotten pretty quiet during Trump's presidency, but her book that she dared write stirred some of that shit right back up. I can easily believe they will buy the same brand of shit for Warren.

Even knowing what resulted.

Most of the right’s coverage of Kuhner’s interaction with Warren described her as “frazzled” or “triggered,” claiming that she “scrambles” when confronted

Nevertheless, the descriptive and highly gendered language used to frame the clip by the right closely echoes the popular portrayal of Hillary Clinton as spasmodic, easily rattled and high-strung, paving the way for fake news about Clinton’s ill health and mental fragility.




And while the Times piece was not built on partisan rancor, its subtler renderings of these two candidates dovetailed fairly neatly with the blaring right-wing messaging working to depict Warren as a duplicitous member of the Establishment elite, especially its quote about Warren from the UBS banker whose home she visited: “I think she is very different in conversation than when she’s on the stump.” There it is, the Hillary-esque suggestion of duplicity, of one public face at odds with private exchanges in wealthy worlds.

Particularly despised by brogressives.

They're slipping

I pretty sure they will slip that in too.

That would be against the rules. I wonder if we'll get alerted on if we call them out when they do and start trashing Warren?

but also from mainstream Democrats and from center and right independents and Repubs. Different specific messages targeted at groups across the spectrum. I've recognized some of this on Warren already myself, also Harris. Of course. They're Democrats and women.

And why wouldn't they use the Hillary playbook when people react as trained to all the old catchphrases? Poor, poor Judicial Watch had 5 new scandals all created and ready to go when Hillary took office. Such a disappointment, but of course they they were immediately funded to go to work on 2018 and 2020. Wonder what juicy fake scandal ideas they've been arguing the merits of for Warren? Any other woman? Somewhat different for Sanders and again different for Biden, but I'm sure all well padded out and ready to pitch to those who would be paying for them.

Since women have a natural advantage over men in being considered naturally more "trustworthy," though, of course hitting her and the others on trust is mandatory and requires absolutely no new strategizing -- just copy over the old stuff from Clinton.

For the left all the accusations they themselves leveled at Clinton will be rewarmed for Warren.

So many of those "I'm not sexist because I would totes vote for Liz Warren" types brought out the long knives the second she endorsed HRC... I believe someone called her the "far left's Canadian girlfriend."

you know stuff like "she shoulda run in 2016, she missed her chance" even as she up goes up against challengers who've been around the block before...

Concern trolling.

Say a Harris, Klobuchar or Gillibrand?

"it's not enough to vote for her because she's a woman," because you know, women and men who want to prove they are "feminists" always just do that unless they are reminded not to.

Like we all did with Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and Carly Fiorina....

And to be reminded is so not condescending or insulting whatsoever.

Ambitious & B**ch

But then I never think of it in the first place

Oh wait, he's a male, so it doesn't matter that he'll be close to 80.

only would any woman be swiftboated Hillary style, but any man with just a few little shifts in message. To most of America, Sanders' background is an empty slate that the smear machine still could paint anything they want on. One of those groups, Judicial Watch, I think, boasted of having several fake scandals developed and ready to decide among, bring up to speed and launch if needed.

After all, the allegation is the attack, the longer they can keep their smoke and mirrors hiding the fact that there's nothing to it, the higher their score runs up.

They wouldn't mind a woman just not that woman.

Her star will never be as bright as it was a year or two ago. I honestly don't see her winning the 2020 nomination. She should've struck while the iron was hot.

to hopefully energize the Sanders voters out there that didn't like Clinton. Sure, she would not have helped with all of his voters, but definitely some of them and more than Tim Kaine.

(I like Tim Kaine and he seems like a great guy and would have been a fine VP, but I think Warren would have energized progressives or somebody like Becerra would have energized the Hispanic vote. Of course, maybe without Kaine, Democrats don't win Virginia?)

male body parts are NOT NEEDED for courage and by the way, balls are NOTORIOUSLY DELICATE

Thank you for posting, Cattledog.

and never about policy or ethics. This proves it.

Because they're afraid women will treat them the way they've treated women.

It's a thought

is going to get hammered by RW Radio and TV over the air and by Russian bots and other RW trolls on social media. Expect it, but don't get disheartened by it if friends and acquaintances fall for some of it as well.

It's already happened with Cory Booker, Kamala Harris and Deval Patrick (gee, what do all of them have in common?)

they have a new mission!

Get Wikileaks on line 1!
Sinclair Broadcasting - we have some news for you to spread
Fox News - Tell Hannity we are going for her!

They are cranking up the machine.
Limbaugh - time to make up some stories about Warren being a Communist ..............