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MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:30 PM Sep 2017

What is in Tax Reform touted by Dotard for middle class?

1. Standard deduction for single raised to $12000 and married to $24000 - Single parents who are head of household and having children/dependents are screwed, they were getting $9300 and $4050 for each dependent including themselves, perhaps married couple with no children will benefit a "little".

2. State Income taxes deduction removed : Here you go middle class in high state tax CA, NY, NJ etc (BTW Dem states) is screwed again.

3. Mortgage, 401k and Charity deductions are possibly remaining but most of other (I do not know what those are) will be removed.

Who gains:

RICH folks making 500k or more per year, AMT removed, max tax rate decreased from 39.4 to 35%, they can now vacation more.

THIS TAX REFORM IS TAKING MONEY FROM MIDDLE CLASS AND GIVING TO RICH... NOTHING ELSE

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taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
1. The doubling of the standard deduction will be a benefit to many lower and middle class taxpayers
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:34 PM
Sep 2017

The rich get a much bigger benefit with the pass through rate of 25%.

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
2. Yes it will for some folks but you can do your own math, I hope turbotax builds a site
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:38 PM
Sep 2017

where we can easily model our 2016 tax return with new formula. I am single parent of two and living in CA, I donot see how this will help me.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
3. Upper and middle class homeowners in California get fucked
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:40 PM
Sep 2017

Like me and my wife. The loss of the state and local deduction is huge. I can't believe Republicans from Cali, NY, NJ, WA would vote for this.

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
4. For upper middle class perhaps AMT removal may substitute loss of state tax deduction
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:45 PM
Sep 2017

Depends on situation but overall it is not helping people in CA, NY, NJ, WA etc

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
5. They won't until there is an actual tax plan enacted.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:57 PM
Sep 2017

And even then, it will take some time for the actual regulations to be promulgated so such a thing can be done.

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
6. Here is another analysis...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 01:14 PM
Sep 2017
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/tax-plan-impact-mystery-middle-class-not-trump-n805331

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The most controversial deduction that's gone is for state and local taxes, which would disproportionately affect filers in states with higher taxes like New York, New Jersey and California. The deduction provides the most benefit to upper-middle-class and wealthy income filers, who could see their taxes go up as a result under the Trump/GOP plan.
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On paper, the biggest beneficiaries of the individual changes are low- and middle-income single filers and childless couples who would see more earnings covered by the higher standard deduction. But some families might see a tax increase, since the proposal eliminates the personal exemption that filers currently claim for each taxpayer and dependent. Senior citizens and the blind currently also receive an additional deduction that could be affected by the proposal.

"Based on the details of the plan that have been released, a married couple with two kids earning [under] $79,583 a year would pay more under the Trump plan than under existing law," said Daniel Hemel, an assistant professor of law at the University of Chicago.
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