and Orlando

and

and

and...

After he holds yet another vote to repeal Obamacare.

about all of those injured people and the hospital emergency room and medical costs. I wonder how many are covered under ACA and what would happen to them if they weren't covered?

Dump's Amerika.

Same with mass shootings carried out by white men.

Holy shit 59. Dead. Perfect time. Want automatic weapons, perfect time to talk about that. Silencers, perfect time to talk about that. We may be able to talk about gun fetishism once we know the shooters background. (We may not as well).

More division in the country, that you can count on.

On gun control is just not reality. These devastating weapons are fucking everywhere in this country and easier to purchase then a bag of weed.

Or we can have a government that says "Oh well, what are you gonna do, right?"

But we can't have both.

20 little kids gunned down in their Keds. When that didn't happen, when President Obama's sentiments were met with hatred by the people we now refer to as deplorables, I knew the time had come and gone for any kind of meaningful dialogue on guns.

Best advice: keep your head down, avoid large crowds and hope for the best.

I spend a lot less time out in public than I did just five years ago.

And it is by design.

Anybody in any car on the road, anybody in the grocery store, post office, church, school board meeting, anybody anywhere, convicted felon, sex offender or fine upstanding citizen can be fully armed and concealed carrying a tool expressly made to kill many people as fast and efficiently as possible.

There is no place to hide here.

Welcome to the NRA/Republican terror state. If your state doesn't have these laws yet they probably will in the future.

You often see people with side arms at grocery stores etc.

Another reason why we do a lot of shopping, even for staples, on Amazon.

I try not to think about it too much. I don't have a thousand bucks of disposable cash to arm myself and my wife nor do I really want to carry around a death machine in my pocket 24/7 and have the chances of accidental discharge or leaving a weapon within reach of a child.

So as I exit my car every night after work on our dark street I look over my shoulder...and hurry inside.

I also dread road rage incidents too.

I won't hold my breath for any changes given the now GOP president, senate, House, and supreme court.

Did you hear the videos? A continuous barrage of machine gunning down the crowd.

But they alway say nothing can be done. If restrictions are put in place someone will get around them so we don't need restrictions.

It's sick but so much of the conservative forces have become intensely sick about nearly everything.

and NOTHING CHANGED. I gave up after that. This is the hell we have made, and the one we deserve.

Is a group that is not long for this world I think.

We are just waiting for our extinction event now.

Global climate change, Trump starting nuclear WW3, take your pick I guess.

every time the NRA goes into maximum overdrive to discredit those who are against guns. It seems like when these shootings happen that afterwards gun laws change to the benefit of gun humpers. It also almost like the gun humpers know before anyone else about these shootings because it always seems like they are fighting for the rights of the shooter(s) to have guns. It is almost like someone called them before anyone else. Just saying.

The GrOPers DO. NOT. CARE.

Nothing will be done.

as "the guns he used were already illegal so this proves that gun laws don't work".

After they fail to categorize the shooter as a Democrat, Rachel Maddow fan, Muslim, ISIS convert, etc.

Treating gunfuckers like delicate flowers helps no one, including the gunfuckers.

Fully automatic Weapons are covered under the 1934 National Firearms Act.

1. To purchase one you must pay a 200$ tax stamp.
2. To purchase one, you must submit to a full FBI background check, no NICS check.
3. You must register it, including where you store it, with the BATFE.
4. You might be subject to inspection/visitation by the BATFE if they feel like checking up on it.
5. You cannot have them in certain states where they are not legal (such as Washington.)
6. The NFA registry was closed in 1986, so no new firearms of this type have been sold to the public since, and all pre-1986 NFA weapons therefore command collectors prices. A rifle that would otherwise cost around $800 MSRP, may cost more than $20,000 and would be no less than 31 years old at this point.


What we don't know:
1. Did he lawfully own it, or was it stolen, or was it a semi-auto rifle that was modified?
2. Was there any prior indication he shouldn't have guns, that was not followed up on by the BATFE. In most cases, guns aren't registered, but this is a very different issue, since at least one of his firearms was clearly fully automatic. A 'not eligible' court order triggered by a crime or a mental health evaluation would have been actionable by the BATFE, since in this particular case, the firearm must have been registered if it was lawfully owned.


What would you like to discuss?

That's what I've always heard. It's why you don't see them outside of the military and law enforcement. Seems like the law was no hindrance to the mass murderer.

I don't mind a conversation if I know why we should have one. If it turns out he modified a semiautomatic weapon to be automatic, maybe those guns should be outlawed as well.

Everywhere else they're tightly constrained by Federal Law.

Our own Arkansas Granny looked it up:
It's called "The Hearing Protection Act of 2017". Makes it sound nicer. Bill Bratton, former LAPD chief now NBC Senior Analyst, said it'll get passed.

UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, MAYBE??? (HINT: handy TOLL FREE Capitol Hill Switchboard numbers conveniently located in my sig line below.)

More people DID NOT die in at that Las Vegas country music festival last night ONLY BECAUSE THEY COULD HEAR the rat-tat-tat-tat of the shooter's machine gun.

It also would have overheated on him. They aren't meant for use on a fully automatic weapon.

But We Won't Because Stephen Paddock Was A White Male Terrorist With A Gun That Killed 60+ and Injured 500+ -- so after the "Thoughts and Prayers" period, plus making mountaintop hill of excuses for Paddock's Terrorism, building some type of memorial for the victims and the injured in Las Vegas -- life will go on and Guns will still be sold exactly (if not worse) like they are now -- before Stephen Paddock ever took to 32 flights above ground to kill people in Las Vegas.

What you mean to say is "Now is the time to ban guns".

Will congress and twitler finally take action since the victims were i their tribal club. I bet a lo of them were twitler and rethug voters!

20 children were killed at Sandy Hook when Obama was President no action but so far 58 white peoples are killed will they FINALLY do something? ( I hate to put race in this but if it had been black or brown people I doubt twitler would have even tweeted condolences)

And the NRA will cry, throw money at their favorite Congress Reps, unfortunately, and this will fade.
One thing the NRA can’t argue is that if the concert goers were armed, they could have stop him. There were armed off-duty law enforcement acting as security, and NOBODY knew where the gunman was firing from until it was long over.

By the way: FUCK THE NRA!!

... specifically because there was at the time no standing army.

Well, we have an army now. I think we've had it for a while.

And furthermore, there is nothing at all regulated about the way Republicans interpret the Second Amendment.

The NRA is a lobby for gun manufactures, not gun owners. They don't exist to "protect your second amendment rights;" they exist solely transfer wealth to the gun & ammo industry.

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but since you brought up history so will I. In the late 1700s "well regulated" meant well supplied and trained. They had no concept of the word "regulation" as we now mean it. Government then did not pass any "regulations" as we know them.

My bad. But I was ranting!

Thx.

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Don't politicize this. Send your thoughts and prayers to the families instead.

We have mass murders by gun once a month and we can't do anything about it.
We have a President put in place by Russia and we can't do anything about it.
We can't do shit about anything.
"America the Impotent"

discussion and the solutions will no longer settle for weak kneed placating.

Every time we attempt this conversation, the idiots who pretend accurate nomenclature is more important than actual lives will tell us any given solution is either a) unworkable, or B) wouldn't have prevented the most recent event.

It's not scripted though-- just a simplistic knee jerk bumper-sticker by dullards who think last night's event was simply a small price we pay to maintain our freedoms.

Oh, and "Violent crimes are down!!!!" 'cause that bit of irrelevancy comes with the aforementioned box of crap wrapped in a pretty bow.

When you get transferred over to a call to your reps, remind him/her that it's part of the "Share" act.