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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:18 PM Oct 2017

Why didn't his neighbors say something? Why didn't his church?

Is his pastor a radical right wing Trumpster?

Is he preaching hate and violence every Sunday? Why is this allowed?

It seems like all these white folks stick together and cover for each other.

I think we should seriously think about closing the borders to these types of people and the ones already here should be registered with the government.

You just can't trust old white men, they are all the same!


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Why didn't his neighbors say something? Why didn't his church? (Original Post) workinclasszero Oct 2017 OP
It's reported he is not a church goer. TexasProgresive Oct 2017 #1
You reminded me of the ugly, overt in your face fake patriotism Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #2
I love the sarcasm in this post. True it is. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #3
Evidently he wasn't a joiner, social or religious dalton99a Oct 2017 #4
They are stoking fear and loathing 24/7. Go look at fox news NightWatcher Oct 2017 #5
No worries folks. In Trump's Amerika you will never see in reality workinclasszero Oct 2017 #6
"Only PoC can be terrorists in the USA" is profoundly ignorant and untrue, Hortensis Oct 2017 #11
It was sarcasm. brush Oct 2017 #15
he's using sarcasm Hort. Amimnoch Oct 2017 #25
Tim McVeigh was a white domestic terrorist whathehell Oct 2017 #13
WHY they would twist this into a racist event is exactly the question. Hortensis Oct 2017 #14
I'm sorry... whathehell Oct 2017 #16
Look around. Out of nowhere suddenly, a mass murder of mostly white people Hortensis Oct 2017 #20
This. cwydro Oct 2017 #35
I just realized this is probably a 2-fer. Democratic Party turmoil AND distraction from PR. Hortensis Oct 2017 #37
Yes indeed. cwydro Oct 2017 #38
What exactly are you talking about?? nt B2G Oct 2017 #7
A sarcastic post workinclasszero Oct 2017 #8
I got the sarcasm right off, but you really should add the emoticon to go with it. Amimnoch Oct 2017 #26
I'm taking it as sarcasm Cirque du So-What Oct 2017 #10
Of course it is. Ligyron Oct 2017 #29
A prime example of white on white crime world wide wally Oct 2017 #43
Gross post. Inkfreak Oct 2017 #9
It's mordant ironic humor maxsolomon Oct 2017 #41
I'm not surprised the shooting was at a country music show. What do people expect from that WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #12
All white guys go to church? ileus Oct 2017 #17
Why aren't the leaders of his skin-color denouncing this act? Iggo Oct 2017 #18
oooo. good one! nt Amimnoch Oct 2017 #27
When will white males in their 60's speak out against this violence? mountain grammy Oct 2017 #19
Brilliant post malaise Oct 2017 #21
It's sad that you have to use the sarcasm smilie uppityperson Oct 2017 #22
I had the same thought... kag Oct 2017 #23
Sometimes I think they intentionally misunderstand sarcasm LakeArenal Oct 2017 #28
That is in their job description, after all. Ninsianna Oct 2017 #31
When will we cut off travel from his country? IronLionZion Oct 2017 #24
Since he lived a short drive from the Bundy Ranch maxsolomon Oct 2017 #42
Why didn't the president call this radical right wing/Christian terrorism by its name? Ninsianna Oct 2017 #30
He lived in a senior housing community. The FBI needs to start visiting these communities and lunasun Oct 2017 #32
Great sarcastic post! ManiacJoe Oct 2017 #33
My boyfriend is an old white guy, 67 years old........... mrmpa Oct 2017 #34
I see. Satire. LBM20 Oct 2017 #36
Then, there's the problem of measuring the degree of whiteness. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #39
A Better Question: Why Didn't The Guy Who Sold Him The GUNS Say Something? TrollBuster9090 Oct 2017 #40
If they had their way.... Xolodno Oct 2017 #44
+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #45
I are an old white chick. raven mad Oct 2017 #46

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. You reminded me of the ugly, overt in your face fake patriotism
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:21 PM
Oct 2017

I saw at NASCAR over the weekend.

A preacher with the invocation calling for god to, and I quote, "Protect President Trump's war-chest"

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. They are stoking fear and loathing 24/7. Go look at fox news
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:24 PM
Oct 2017

They push their viewers to the verge of stochastic murder daily so that they can push their candidates and ideology onto them in a weak, scared, desperate, and accepting frame of mind. They assault their senses and sensibility and reprogram their brains into this bunker mentality where they think if they don’t shoot up a DC pizza joint that Hillary’s army of child slave runners will steal all the white kids off their block.

The right wing is fucking evil.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. No worries folks. In Trump's Amerika you will never see in reality
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:25 PM
Oct 2017

what I posted above.

Only PoC can be terrorists in the USA.

White radical right wing terrorists are labeled as 'fine people' by that evil bastard in the white house.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. "Only PoC can be terrorists in the USA" is profoundly ignorant and untrue,
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:38 PM
Oct 2017

to the point that I wonder what is going on. How many people here are really that ignorant? There's a whole group here hitting this divisive, demoralizing anti-American note. Where'd it come from originally and why are you spreading it, here or anywhere?

Also, this is a forum for supporting Democrats, and your post seems to be accusing Democrats of persecuting POC as well. We not only have lots of people in government, elected, appointed, and employed, but we're Americans in the "USA" and we have controlled various parts of the government in the past. So when you accuse the "USA" of this behavior, you are accusing us.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
13. Tim McVeigh was a white domestic terrorist
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:40 PM
Oct 2017

and was referred to as such...Why anyone would be trying to make this hideous event about race is beyond me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. WHY they would twist this into a racist event is exactly the question.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:45 PM
Oct 2017

The people who died in Las Vegas are being used as an excuse to openly attack the United States. Here, on DU!

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
16. I'm sorry...
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:52 PM
Oct 2017

I just woke up from a nap, so maybe I missed some news or something, but I'm not sure what you mean...Who are "they,"?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Look around. Out of nowhere suddenly, a mass murder of mostly white people
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:03 PM
Oct 2017

by a white man has turned into an outrageous example of injustice toward PoC? The excuse: That (before even an investigation could even be started) the white man wasn't labeled a terrorist. This is being pushed with the completely dishonest mantra seen in a number of threads claiming that in America "Only PoC can be terrorists." Again, out of nowhere, divisive, demoralizing flames shoot up.

If we go look, we're was going to find it's broken out all over social media. So for "they," I'm thinking Russia. But since it primarily is obviously intended to affect cohesion on the left, it could also be coming from professional right-wing American troll operations.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
35. This.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:29 PM
Oct 2017

Thank you.

It's utterly disgusting when people take a tragedy to twist it to make their own political points. Smh.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. I just realized this is probably a 2-fer. Democratic Party turmoil AND distraction from PR.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:34 PM
Oct 2017

That IS the effect of these murders being played up and argued as racial injustice on DU , filling almost all time on MSNBC, and CNN, and no doubt far beyond. PR and VI barely given a mention at the bottom of the hour.

Given the effect, we really should be looking for the cause and the motive. But we mostly know the latter, don't we?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
26. I got the sarcasm right off, but you really should add the emoticon to go with it.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:56 PM
Oct 2017

Especially in a jury situation, you might get hidden due to the lack of understanding.

Cirque du So-What

(25,984 posts)
10. I'm taking it as sarcasm
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:32 PM
Oct 2017

Consider, for example, how RWers hold the entire Muslim world responsible when one of its radical adherents becomes a suicide bomber.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
29. Of course it is.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:08 PM
Oct 2017

It's pointing out how badly POC are portrayed by the RW and how white terrorists are instead simply "mentally disturbed".

This should be obvious.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,438 posts)
12. I'm not surprised the shooting was at a country music show. What do people expect from that
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:40 PM
Oct 2017

macho outlaw culture, where raising hell is seen as a virtue?

kag

(4,079 posts)
23. I had the same thought...
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:52 PM
Oct 2017

this morning, but didn't post it because of the people like the ones who posted here who don't understand that it's sarcasm.

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
28. Sometimes I think they intentionally misunderstand sarcasm
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:07 PM
Oct 2017

I wouldn't think anyone on DU would believe the poster believes people of color are the terrorists. But, alas, they need to have the sarcasm smilie. Then again, people get outraged about misplaced punctuation.......

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
24. When will we cut off travel from his country?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:54 PM
Oct 2017

Why haven't his community and country's leaders spoke out against this? Are they implicitly supporting it?

Profile wealthy accountants! Anyone with multiple houses and planes!

Every single person who resembles his physical appearance is suspect. It's in their blood. These people might seem nice to your face to win your trust until that one fine day when they get you. You can't trust these people!

I knew a crotchety old man once. He was an asshole too. Most of them are! Even if some of them might be fine people, why take a chance on safety?



As for the ISIS connection, they definitely forbid gambling and self inflicted gunshots. If it turns out there is no connection then ISIS will lose all credibility for taking credit for stuff they didn't do.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
30. Why didn't the president call this radical right wing/Christian terrorism by its name?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:17 PM
Oct 2017

And so what if he wasn't a church goer, we all know that terrorists are radicalized online these days, and the imams are active on Breitbart, Infowars and Fox.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
32. He lived in a senior housing community. The FBI needs to start visiting these communities and
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:21 PM
Oct 2017

see what they really are talking about amongst themselves. We need to investigate to know now, & its not an invasion of a private community if it means we are all safe

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
34. My boyfriend is an old white guy, 67 years old...........
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:28 PM
Oct 2017

he owns three rifles and 4 handguns and has a concealed license (we're in PA). When he woke this morning, I had the news on & updated him on what happened. The first words out of his mouth were, "they've got to stop letting crazies get guns."

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
39. Then, there's the problem of measuring the degree of whiteness.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:46 PM
Oct 2017

Someone probably makes and App for that. Scale of 0 thru 10.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
40. A Better Question: Why Didn't The Guy Who Sold Him The GUNS Say Something?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:55 PM
Oct 2017
Answer: Oh yeah....he doesn't HAVE to. In fact, GOP politicians are working three shifts to MAKE SURE he doesn't have to.

Gun Store owner, or gunshow guy asks himself the following questions.

"Is it a red flag that this obviously unhinged guy is buying five Bushmasters and five AK47, and 25 magazines of ammunition? YES! I'll have to ask him a question..."

"Do you have $10,000, Sir?"

Ans: "Yes."

"Alright, it's a deal!"



If somebody owns a dozen semi-automatic assault rifles, which can easily be converted into full auto, that SHOULD normally raise a red flag for law enforcement. But the right wing politicians in Washington are MAKING SURE they'll NEVER know. No national registry. No records required for re-sale or straw man purchasers. No records AT ALL for gun show sales. Laws banning resales of guns to criminals that are IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE. They have to PROVE that YOU KNEW they were going to use the gun for criminal activity. No mind-reading machines yet available.

And finally, yes....the first thing the GOP did when they got into power wasn't to repeal and replace Obamacare, or lower taxes. THE FIRST THING THEY DID was repeal the law preventing NUTCASES from buying guns.

Xolodno

(6,401 posts)
44. If they had their way....
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:55 PM
Oct 2017

...the NRA would make it a crime against the gun seller for blowing the whistle.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
46. I are an old white chick.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:42 PM
Oct 2017

My folks died several years ago. They were a (very) old white man and woman. And considered "leftists".

We don't all "stick together". Mom marched Selma to Montgomery. But a wall around Repukes would work for me.

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