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Siwsan

(26,291 posts)
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 02:53 PM Oct 2017

Dakota Meyer is slamming Dan Bilzerian for fleeing from the shooting scene

Ok, Dakota Meyer is a Medal of Honor winning Marine who was trained to persevere under fire. And he did. As much as I may deride his in-laws, the Palins, I have immense respect for Dakota Meyer.

But Dan Bilzerian probably reacted the way so many of us would. Bilzerian, it seems, tried and failed to qualify to be a Navy SEAL, and there may be a reason he failed. Some people have the kind of courage and fortitude it takes, some people don't. I would probably have run, too. At least until the shooting stopped, which is what it looks like he did.

However, being clear headed enough to FILM yourself running away - I find that that kind of bewildering, but then I'm a bit of a luddite, when it comes to social media and video taping.

Anyway, here's the article from the notorious Daily Mail. They may be a tabloid, but they do jump in, with both feet, when news like this breaks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941060/Dakota-Meyer-slams-Dan-Bilzerian.html

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Dakota Meyer is slamming Dan Bilzerian for fleeing from the shooting scene (Original Post) Siwsan Oct 2017 OP
Dan is a scumbag like his father Paul. n/t LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #1
I saw Facebook posts calling aldean a coward Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #2
That will be Ted Nugent's next concert instrument, ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #7
So he should have just stayed put and taken incoming rounds?! Zambero Oct 2017 #11
Pretty sure NOT running in that situation makes you a complete dumbass Takket Oct 2017 #3
When it comes to bullets, flight takes precedence over fight Siwsan Oct 2017 #4
Took the words right out of my mouth. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #6
Not sure about a complete dumbass. Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #21
Dakota Meyer married to Bristol Palin ? HipChick Oct 2017 #5
That's the one Siwsan Oct 2017 #9
I don't know who any of these people are but, running from a free fire zone seems sensible mackdaddy Oct 2017 #8
Admittedly, I am pretty technology challenged Siwsan Oct 2017 #10
Aaaaaand the assholes skitter out from under the woodwork... Squinch Oct 2017 #12
Where was Meyer? Iggo Oct 2017 #13
There sure are a lot of people competing for stupidest post of the day award today Alea Oct 2017 #14
The "here's what I woulda done" motherfuckers are some of the worst. Iggo Oct 2017 #15
Not so many in the judgmental category, though Siwsan Oct 2017 #16
I re-thought my life since my last post and feel I should apoligize to you Alea Oct 2017 #19
You are a grand individual! Siwsan Oct 2017 #20
Not fleeing would have accomplished what, exactly? eShirl Oct 2017 #17
Mega machoness? Siwsan Oct 2017 #18

Zambero

(8,968 posts)
11. So he should have just stayed put and taken incoming rounds?!
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:13 PM
Oct 2017

Drums are said to do volleys, but not the defensive type. Entertainers putting themselves directly in front of large audiences every night are already taking an undue risk to their safety. The conclusions that some people arrive at defy all logic and reason.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,899 posts)
6. Took the words right out of my mouth.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:04 PM
Oct 2017

Even assuming he'd immediately figured out where the shots were coming from, unless he had his own high-powered rifle or automatic weapon of his own, what should he have done?

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
21. Not sure about a complete dumbass.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:12 PM
Oct 2017

But I’m a whole lot closer to your thoughts than the jackass talking shit in the article.

mackdaddy

(1,528 posts)
8. I don't know who any of these people are but, running from a free fire zone seems sensible
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:06 PM
Oct 2017

not cowardly.

Some guy is hosing down a crowd with machine guns from a skyscraper, the best thing you can do is get the hell out, and deny him targets. Get yourself and as many people as possible to safety is the only defense against this.

Selfie videos could be useful if they are documenting the last second of you life, or help identify where the killer was.

Siwsan

(26,291 posts)
10. Admittedly, I am pretty technology challenged
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 03:10 PM
Oct 2017

Maybe if I was already videoing something - but to run from gunfire, AND grapple with a cell phone, well, I'd probably drop the phone and stomp on it.

Squinch

(51,014 posts)
12. Aaaaaand the assholes skitter out from under the woodwork...
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

Note: when bullets are raining down, you run, Dakota. Dumbass.

Alea

(706 posts)
19. I re-thought my life since my last post and feel I should apoligize to you
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:57 PM
Oct 2017

Nothing wrong in your wording. My "stupid post" remark was kind of directed at what Dakota said.

They say there was 22,000 people there. Probably 21,400 ran. The people that didn't run were dead or injured, and the police, and people that had a loved one shot next to them and stayed to help or comfort them despite the risk. Everyone else ran, especially when the police started telling them to run.

If Dakota were there with family he would have been wise to grab his kids and tell his wife to run and make sure they all got to cover. If he were alone, who knows. I sure knew people in the service that would have laid on top of an injured person to try and protect them, or pick them up and carry them to safety. His MoH suggest he would have, but like I said, he wasn't there and I can't criticize anyone for running.

Siwsan

(26,291 posts)
18. Mega machoness?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 05:02 PM
Oct 2017

I think Dakota has caught some sort of virus, from the Palins, that induces arrogant verbal spewings.

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