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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:03 PM Oct 2017

It Shouldn't Surprise Anyone That Lisa Bloom Is Representing Harvey Weinstein

On Thursday, the New York Times published an incendiary report that detailed almost three decades’ worth of sexual harassment allegations against the powerful Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein. The report confirmed much of the whispered speculation surrounding Weinstein’s behavior towards women, with stories from actors like Ashley Judd and anonymous former women employees that illustrated allegations of a disturbing pattern of Weinstein’s abuse of his power.

Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey’s reporting included this curious fact: Lisa Bloom, daughter of Gloria Allred and lawyer who has made her career representing female victims in sexual assault cases against powerful men, is representing Weinstein, and has been “advising” him for the past year—a curious choice for a man who, if the circumstances were different, Bloom might have faced in court.

https://jezebel.com/it-shouldnt-surprise-anyone-that-lisa-bloom-is-represen-1819188484
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It Shouldn't Surprise Anyone That Lisa Bloom Is Representing Harvey Weinstein (Original Post) oberliner Oct 2017 OP
I see an ambulance being chased Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #1
Hit the entertainment blogs yesterday JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #2
"Weinstein is the producer for the six-episode adaptation of Bloom's 2014 book" - is the key line PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #3
Yep oberliner Oct 2017 #5
The ethical violation being what? jberryhill Oct 2017 #6
Gloria Allred on Daughter Lisa Bloom Working for Harvey Weinstein: I Would Have Declined oberliner Oct 2017 #9
Unethical for a lawyer to do her job? LanternWaste Oct 2017 #8
Lawyers can choose whom they represent oberliner Oct 2017 #10
"defending victims of sexual harassment" jberryhill Oct 2017 #14
Advocating for victims of sexual harassment oberliner Oct 2017 #17
"to take on a client like this" jberryhill Oct 2017 #18
Lisa Bloom Resigns as Harvey Weinstein Advisor oberliner Oct 2017 #19
Ah, I suppose client loyalty is not also a question of ethics jberryhill Oct 2017 #21
I'm a bit sickened by this. DK504 Oct 2017 #4
I'm surprised that anyone thinks a highly reputed attorney in the field shouldn't take an engagement jberryhill Oct 2017 #7
An attorney who is famous for defending victims of sexual harassment and assault oberliner Oct 2017 #11
Being famous doesn't pay the bills jberryhill Oct 2017 #13
I don't get this. He hasn't been charged leftstreet Oct 2017 #12
The OP takes liberties with the word "representing" jberryhill Oct 2017 #15
No, it doesn't oberliner Oct 2017 #20
Money and race malaise Oct 2017 #16
Lisa Bloom conveniently omitted the fact that Weinstein was making a movie about her book onetexan Oct 2017 #22

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
2. Hit the entertainment blogs yesterday
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:19 PM
Oct 2017

Technically when they signed the deal. However, the e-blogs were all about this:

Weinstein is the producer for the six-episode adaptation of Bloom’s 2014 book about the Trayvon Martin case. Bloom and her bank account are no doubt ecstatic at the prospect. (Bloom did not immediately return a request for comment from Jezebel.)


Money talks and bullshit walks.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. "Weinstein is the producer for the six-episode adaptation of Bloom's 2014 book" - is the key line
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:45 PM
Oct 2017

in the story.

Weinstein is the producer for the six-episode adaptation of Bloom’s 2014 book about the Trayvon Martin case.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. The ethical violation being what?
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:07 PM
Oct 2017

She is a capable attorney with a lot of experience in the relevant law.

Oh, I see... Because she is a woman, then she should not be able to take engagements of which you disapprove?
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Gloria Allred on Daughter Lisa Bloom Working for Harvey Weinstein: I Would Have Declined
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017
“Had I been asked by Mr. Weinstein to represent him, I would have declined, because I do not represent individuals accused of sex harassment,” Allred said a statement Thursday released just after a bombshell New York Times story had settled at least eight cases of sexual harassment spanning decades.

https://www.thewrap.com/gloria-allred-daughter-lisa-bloom-working-harvey-weinstein-declined/


Since Bloom is famous for defending victims of sexual harassment and assault, I would have thought she would had a similar reaction.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. Unethical for a lawyer to do her job?
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:12 PM
Oct 2017

Unethical for a lawyer to do her job?

Or are you referring to an ethics rules she's broken... if so, which one?

Or you dislike her client, therefore her representation of him is unethical and your allegation is merely bias presenting its little face?

Which specific attorney should Mr Weinstein hire, and on what objective measure is that based on?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Lawyers can choose whom they represent
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:17 PM
Oct 2017

See the statement from Allred posted above.

Since Bloom is famous for defending victims of sexual harassment and assault, one would think that she might have similar reservations as her mother.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. "defending victims of sexual harassment"
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 02:20 PM
Oct 2017

One does not "defend" victims of sexual harassment. Ordinarily, one proceeds to represent them as plaintiffs. It's the one being sued who is doing the defending.

But, more often, what Lisa Bloom does is to obtain clients who have a sexual harassment claim, seek to obtain money from the prospective defendant, and then ratchet up the media exposure of the claim to pressure the prospective defendant to settle. The pinnacle of the way this works is the "Lisa Bloom press conference" in which the allegations are aired as a dare to the prospective defendant to call the client a liar, and then to include a defamation claim on top of the harassment claim (which may be time barred or have other procedural problems).

It is precisely that misguided understanding of her craft which makes her useful at this point in time, at which Weinstein is being accused of things, but not actually being sued for anything. I mean golly, "if Lisa Bloom is standing up for him, then I guess he didn't do it". That has a value. And it has a lot more value if Bloom was unable to round up any of the accusers for her usual thing.

Lawyers, actual lawyers, are very different from the "As Seen On TV" version of lawyers.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Advocating for victims of sexual harassment
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 05:30 PM
Oct 2017

Would've been a better way of putting it.

I understand your points, but it just seems strange for someone who has devoted much of her professional life to advocating for the victims of sexual harassment to take on a client like this.

Gloria Allred, a similar champion for the victims of sexual harassment, has said that she would not have taken Weinstein on as a client, and I would have thought Lisa Bloom would have had a similar take given what seemed to be her similar passion for that cause.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. "to take on a client like this"
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

Did you read her statement?

When you say "her client", in what capacity do you mean? She's helping him manage PR. That's all she's doing.

She's helping to make him a better person, you see. Her statement explains that nobody's "defending" behavior that, through his upbringing, he did not recognize or control. She's working with him diligently as sort of a life coach, to rehabilitate him.

Isn't that really better than the whole "legal" thing anyway? Would you rather punish people, or help them to see the error of their ways so that they go and sin no more?

What if everyone had a Lisa Bloom to help them see the light, the way that Weinstein does. Wouldn't changing those hearts and minds ultimately do more for victims?

She's walking him along the road to Damascus on the way to his conversion, you see.

Or, she's a TV personality and needed to jump on board this circus wagon so we'll all talk about her.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Lisa Bloom Resigns as Harvey Weinstein Advisor
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:47 PM
Oct 2017

Excerpt:


Bloom’s resignation comes after a flurry of criticism has surfaced on social media over the past 24 hours, attacking Bloom’s decision to represent Weinstein with naysayers calling her a hypocrite, as she’s dedicated her legal career to defending women.

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/lisa-bloom-resigns-harvey-weinstein-lawyer-sexual-harassment-1202583486/

DK504

(3,847 posts)
4. I'm a bit sickened by this.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 12:55 PM
Oct 2017

She really needed to recuse herself from this one. Very nasty. Very disappointing. Pretty pissed actually.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. I'm surprised that anyone thinks a highly reputed attorney in the field shouldn't take an engagement
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:11 PM
Oct 2017

Is it because she's a woman, she should limit her practice to plaintiffs instead of defendants? Or what?

Everyone has the right to hire a lawyer in a civil case.

I've represented people accused of trademark infringement. I've represented trademark owners against infringers. So what?

Why shouldn't someone hire an attorney with a lot of experience in the relevant law?
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. An attorney who is famous for defending victims of sexual harassment and assault
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:22 PM
Oct 2017

That is the part that makes it surprising for some folks (myself included).

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. Being famous doesn't pay the bills
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 02:13 PM
Oct 2017

Bloom doesn't seem to do a whole lot of representation of victims in actual litigation.

She does a lot of TV appearances with women making claims, generally for the purpose of influencing pre-litigation settlement proposals, or for the purpose of playing the "I dare you to engage in defamation by denying it" game when the allegations are denied.

I'm not sure you understand what she does. Her work is primarily either (a) for wealthy people who have been accused of things in the media, or (b) for persons who have a claim against wealthy people that they would prefer not to be accused in the media of having done. The rest is primarily theatrics, which is the "famous" part.

The "TV lawyer" schtick is not about issue advocacy or actually litigating anything.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
12. I don't get this. He hasn't been charged
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 01:25 PM
Oct 2017

So they're...what, suing the New York Times?

LOL good luck with that

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. The OP takes liberties with the word "representing"
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 04:15 PM
Oct 2017

She is not actually representing him in the sense of an attorney representing a client in a matter.

She's doing PR, as usual.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. No, it doesn't
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:59 PM
Oct 2017
The Curious Case of Harvey Weinstein’s ‘Feminist’ Celebrity Attorney Lisa Bloom

Excerpt:

So it’s easy to understand being bothered and bewildered by Bloom’s recent decision to represent Harvey Weinstein after The New York Times dropped an explosive piece on the decades of sexual harassment accusations against him.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-curious-case-of-harvey-weinsteins-feminist-celebrity-attorney-lisa-bloom


And now she’s representing Harvey Weinstein, the Hollywood kingmaker and Democratic mega-donor, who, according to a New York Times bombshell report, settled at least eight sexual-harassment cases over three decades.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/abc-grills-lisa-bloom-over-why-shes-aiding-harvey-weinstein


Lisa Bloom, attorney to the stars — and the star-adjacent —appeared on "Good Morning America" on Friday to explain what moved her to sign on to represent Harvey Weinstein in the face of sexual harassment allegations.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-attorney-lisa-bloom-on-harvey-1507320413-htmlstory.html


Gloria Allred Responds to Her Daughter Lisa Bloom’s Decision to Represent Harvey Weinstein

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/10/gloria-allred-lisa-bloom-harvey-weinstein-statement?google_editors_picks=true

malaise

(269,096 posts)
16. Money and race
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 04:19 PM
Oct 2017

ah well - what age and time did Cosby come from?

Fuck these greedy racist hypocrites.

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