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Hawwwk! Ptueee!

Oopsie! Sorry. Didn't know you were there.

Myself, I always give bikers a wide berth, allowing them lots of space. It's part of defensive driving, of which I am a strong advocate. But if one(s) does a jerk thing like is described in the OP, it invites the question "How can any reasonable person defend that?"

provided said car driver doesn't try to open their door in the motorcyclist's path or make other aggressive assault.

That said, of course I don't defend the guys (and women) who speed over the limit and past the safe speed while lane sharing.

By the same token, no reasonable person would defend the jerk who opens his car door, or spits out the window, at a passing motorcyclist.

Touché.

Surprise!!! I'm a jerk on a motorcycle and I own the road. So I am going to cut between the lanes to show folks just how big of a jerk I am.

Now I have no problem with bikers doing that when traffic is backed up and stopped. One can then clearly hear and see them. But it is utterly fool hardy and dangerous when traffic is moving. It puts everybody in danger.

We have many bikers where I live. They are all over the place here during the warm months. As a whole, they are polite and safe drivers. I have never seen any of them pull such an idiotic stunt as driving between lanes on an expressway.

I'm pretty sure it is legal, but don't quote me.

The only time I witnessed it was on the I-91 parking lot -- one of the worst freeways in LA area. That fucker is always bumper to bumper out towards San Berdoo county. The bikers were going (at best) a very safe 5-10 mph, threading through the stopped traffic. It took us hours to get about ten miles to our exit. The woman in a car next to us opened her car door, stood next to her vehicle, and unashamedly pissed her pants in front of everybody. She couldn't wait any longer.

I suspect that the bikers got through, because they were threading the lanes slowly and safely.

Not like the utter flaming jerks mentioned in the OP.

I just visit my sis in LGB--- from NY and always see 'lane splitters..'
But yes, you are right..What I have seen is not 90 MPHers....
I mean the occasional zoomer.. but...

Your rights and safety are not infringed in the slightest.

I cannot believe that people are actually defending such dangerous maneuvers.

Madness. Madness!!

If automobile drivers cannot handle that, they need to take a driving class

And weave in and out of the lanes, white-lining all the way. I don't think that's a recipe for long life.

Maybe they can shout "BOO" as they streak past so that they can cause more mayhem.

If some biker splits the lanes at highway speeds and is accidentally struck by a car and gets killed, it is the biker's fault.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/about/lane_splitting

Lane splitting general guidelines

"Lane splitting general guidelines" information is no longer available.

A petitioner complained to the Office of Administrative Law that there was no formal rulemaking process for the guidelines, and raised other objections. The CHP discussed the issue with the Office of Administrative Law and chose not to issue, use or enforce guidelines and thus removed them from the website.

The underlying purpose of the guidelines was to provide common-sense traffic safety information.

California law does not allow or prohibit motorcycles from passing other vehicles proceeding in the same direction within the same lane, a practice often called "lane splitting," "lane sharing" or "filtering."

Creating a safer highway environment is the shared responsibility of drivers and motorcyclists alike. This is achieved by staying alert and using common sense and courtesy while on the road. It is also important for motorcyclists to minimize their risks by riding responsibly, always wearing a helmet and other protective gear and to never ride under the influence of alcohol or other intoxicants. Here are other important safety reminders:

Watch your speed—a motorcycle collision is highly likely to cause injury or death
Assume people in cars do not see you.
Avoid blind spots in other vehicles, particularly large trucks
The California Highway Patrol also strongly encourages all motorcycle riders to sign up for the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, which is administered by the CHP as California's official motorcycle safety and training program. The Program offers courses for new and experiences riders. For more information visit http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/motorcycle.html.

Dont lane split at highway speeds if you want to continue living.

I'll stand by my posts.

Right near or into the compartment of the car.

Bad move.

try not to be one ... that's my mantra these days

ymmv 😎

They may be the only state that permits lane splitting. I'm for it, saves time. I don't know what the CA DMV rules on lane splitting are, the speed. Doing 90 is not good for longevity.

...which most Highway Patrol officers would consider to be no more than 15 mph faster than surrounding traffic.

90 mph was obviously illegal speeding, even on an open road. The trick is catching the offenders.

Many motorcyclists will say they feel safer lane splitting than waiting in back of a stopped car, and getting sandwiched by an inattentive drive from behind.

I rode bikes extensively for 30 years. I kept my lane splitting as safe as possible. I just have to shake my head at drivers who joke about injuring a motorcyclist passing between lanes of cars. It's stupid.

Speaking from experience. Also I remember once being passed on that stretch by a couple of high-speed hot dogs and a few minutes later hearing sirens. Then I passed a dark field with a lot of EMT vehicles in it . . .

He was flying and scared the bejeebus out of a lot of us on that road.

Another time at home we had a SWAT team vehicle pass our car going at least 100 in a 40 mph zone. They almost blew our doors off. They could have killed someone easily if one person miscalculated what was going on. Luckily the traffic signal was green when they flew through.

Glad you made it out alive and just shaken.

Statistically, a motorcyclist is 20 times more likely to be injured in a collision than a car driver or passenger.

Yes, these 90 mph lane splitters are thrill seeking assholes. But in general they only hurt themselves.

I hope they get what is coming to them sooner than later. They are endangering the lives of many motorists. Personally I could care less about their thrill seeking .. but not at the expense of innocent motorists.

And then the cops can show up at their residence later on.

Evidence of a crime and identify a specific vehicle.

In Atlanta, the vast majority of the traffic cams are monitoring for accidents, backup zones, and safety hazards in the road. They dispatch fire and police units based on what they monitor.

You can’t just see a motorcycle (or a car) going fast and say “you went too fast.” You have to be able to say, “you went 93 mph in a 55 zone, and this is your license plate.”

Lane splitting is riding a bicycle or motorcycle between lanes or rows of slow moving or stopped traffic moving in the same direction. Now, they are suppose to do it when traffic is slowed or stopped, but I've seen it done at any speed.

I recently visit San Jose less than a week ago and being from out of the state that does not permit, it is a bit jarring to see and took some time to get accustomed to it. I do have pay attention to the road more because of it.

They were doing more than just lane splitting. One came by me at least 15 to 20 miles and hour faster than the traffic.

He's saying "I'm not responsible for my safety--you are."

If they're not wearing full protective gear when they ride, then I don't give a shit about their thoughts on safety, because they don't give a shit about safety, either.

I routinely (like, more than once a day) see bikers demonstrating all sorts of preposterously reckless behavior, even as car drivers are exhorted to "watch out for motorcycles."

Certainly I would never deliberately target a biker (with a door flung open, for instance), but if that biker's recklessness causes him to splatter himself all over the road, well... Who's to blame?

Darwin self selection.

If so you may want to keep your distance.

I've seen these folks on that very same freeway.

Check out this YouTube lane splitting crash compilation.

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So while lane splitting isn't technically enforced in California, doing so is said to have a maximum speed of 15 MPH over the speed of traffic and only between lanes 1 & 2. There's also the assumption of traffic is near a standstill, not moving along at 65 MPH or so.

Any rider that violates these rules is endangering themselves and others. It's unjustified and risky. But I don't recommend drivers swerve, open doors, or lob objects at them either. Just get their plates and call 911.

Rules to follow:

For motorcyclists, assume no car driver sees you coming.

For cars, use your fucking turn signals when changing lanes. Unless you're a serial murderer.

and they made about 100 of them plus their speed was more than legally allowed. I would rule no one at fault in that situation, the general rule in a rear-end accident is that the vehicle from behind was either traveling at too high a rate of speed and/or following too close. If the rider had been traveling at 10-15 mph above the speed of traffic then they would have had time to react to the sudden lane change.

In the end I would cite the car driver for not signaling and cite the motorcycle rider for careless driving due to their rate of speed. That's one good benefit of all these riders and drivers having dash cams and GoPros these days, many times they are creating evidence that can be used against them.

...of many traffic nightmares. I've seen a few dead bikers where the CHP didn't have enough cars yet to hide the body....blood and a sheet covering an obvious body.

I nearly hit one myself in my car once, had my signal on, looked twice as I always do to make sure no one is there...as I'm making my lane change, bam! Some idiot on a bike comes racing though in heavy traffic...I quickly jerked the car back and just barely missed him...he swerved to, but it would have not been enough if I didn't hear him in time.

who calls himself Ghostrider on Youtube. I'm sure these videos are linked all over the Internet throughout the world.

Put a 200 HP crotch rocket beneath someone who has seen them, sprinkle in high levels of testosterone and you have a toxic brew of adrenaline and danger.

Uppsala run (46 miles in 15 mins) averaging 169.6 MPH

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The video he posted, showing the run before that one.

Which is bizarre to me.

If traffic is at a standstill or very slow and they split lanes at 15mph, no big deal right. If traffic is doing 65 and they are going 90, the stakes are a lot higher for property damage and injury or death.

When lane splitting at any speed they are just one car suddenly changing lanes away from a bad day.