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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. I dont think its fake.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:13 AM
Oct 2017

If it’s true, it’s seriously fucked up. But that, sadly, is far from rare in how the system treats rape survivors. There are plenty of states where rapists can actually have visitation or custody rights. In theory, I think it’s often about trying to save states money on services for the child- the mother mentions this came about, she thinks, because she was getting food stamps and there was an attempt to see about what kind of child support she was or should be getting from the father. But no, being a rapist does not automatically terminate parental rights, can tie the victim to her rapist in horrible ways.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. It is something even the families of rape survivors
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:56 AM
Oct 2017

don't bother to consider. The perp is out in a few years and the woman ends up having him in her orbit again.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
7. From reading about this story, it was iniitated by the sate, apparently to save money the
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:04 AM
Oct 2017

mother is getting in assistance. Doesn't sound like he even wanted or asked for visitations.

PdxSean

(574 posts)
4. RawStorys title is misleading.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oct 2017

There is plenty to be outraged about in the underlying story: The 20 year old rapist was sentenced to ONE YEAR (released after 6 months) after he lured the 12 year old victim and her sister into his car, kidnapped them for two days, and raped her, resulting in the pregnancy. He later raped another child and was sentenced to FOUR years!

The problem with the article is that it is unclear whether the judge knew about the rapes when the order was signed. It IS clear that the court was misled into believing the mother had consented to joint custody with the rapist.

PdxSean

(574 posts)
9. Dunno.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:58 AM
Oct 2017

Judges get lots of papers shoved in front of them. It is possible that he only know that the biological father wanted joint custody and that, as far as he was informed, the mother consented. Judges LOVE signing stuff where the parties agree. In this case, the judge may have been hoodwinked. The article is NOT clear.

What IS clear is that the state is risking the lives and livelihood of rape victims. Knowing the victim was pregnant, the plea agreement should have included child support, a restraining order, and a waiver of any so-called parental rights.

One horrific result of cases like this is that mothers who birth a child born from rape will be much less likely to seek state aid knowing it might have this kind of result.

Frankly, I think some legislators and judges identify more with rapists than with victims; thus, you end up with a rapist claiming parental rights protected by law.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. Father didn't want joint custody and wasn't asking for visitations.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:39 PM
Oct 2017

State brought this case to court because woman was getting support from the state.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
12. Any judge looking at custody ought to know the age of the parents and child
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:51 PM
Oct 2017

and with that, he knew she was 12 at the time of conception. So he knew this was statutory rape.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
13. ITA. With the mother being 12 (a minor) and father 18 (a legal adult) at the time of conception,
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

there seem to be no way to argue this was consensual? Her lawyer is alleging she was kidnapped and raped, but even if one disputes that, she was below the age of consent. So at the very least this would have been a statutory rape.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
5. I keep hearing about things like this happening.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:54 AM
Oct 2017

Women's rights to be human are getting less and less.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
8. It's horrible.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:11 AM
Oct 2017

In this case apparently state is trying to save money that this woman is getting in support.

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