Far-right and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories have a pernicious way of bubbling over into the mainstream these days. An example of this emerged Thursday, when Vice News interviewed Representative Paul Gosar, an Arizona Republican who was elected to office in 2013. He apparently believes that the doomed Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia—during which opposition activist Heather Heyer was allegedly murdered by white nationalist James Fields in a car-ramming incident—was masterminded by philanthropist George Soros.

Yes, really, the theory is that the Jewish business magnate backed the neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

“Let’s look at the person that actually started the rally,” Gosar says, referring to white nationalist Jason Kessler. “It’s come to our attention that this is a person from Occupy Wall Street that was an Obama sympathizer. So wait a minute, be careful where you start taking these people to.”

“You know, you know, George Soros is one of those people that actually helps back these individuals,” he says. “Who is he? I think he’s from Hungary. I think he was Jewish. And I think he turned in his own people to the Nazis.”