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Puerto Rico Governor Responds To Elon Musks Offer To Have Tesla Rebuild The Islands Power Grid:Millions of Puerto Ricans are living in the dark at home after Hurricane Maria ravaged the island, knocking out its already fragile electric grid.
According to Musk:
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Musk has previously stepped into other energy crises around the world. In July, he promised to deliver the worlds largest lithium ion battery to help communities in South Australia that have been suffered from power shortages.
spanone
(135,842 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)DK504
(3,847 posts)"Millions of Puerto Ricans are living in the dark at home after Hurricane Maria ravaged the island, knocking out its already fragile electric grid."
But, Huckleberry Sandbags says everything is almost allllllll better now.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)@elonMusk Lets talk. Do you want to show the world the power and scalability of your #TeslaTechnologies? PR could be that flagship project, Puerto Rico Governor Ricardo Rosselló tweeted Thursday night.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Mega-projects need discussion first. Financing is a definite issue. Musk did not offer to do everything for free.
There is of course also the over-arching debt commission imposed colonially on P.R. as a way to keep them in perpetual catch-up mode. It may get in the way and gum things up.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)onit2day
(1,201 posts)Afromania
(2,768 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)burrowowl
(17,641 posts)spanone
(135,842 posts)you can bet your ass trump won't.
AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,850 posts)Looks like a great thing, hope it works out.
BigmanPigman
(51,608 posts)Is tomorrow too soon?" on Thursday night! What are they waiting for...the Fucking Moron to throw more paper towels at them?
salin
(48,955 posts)multiple steps forward.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)what do the people of Puerto Rico do in the mean time. This is a huge project and their needs are, unfortunately, right now. Those needs have to met as soon as possible as their very lives in many cases depend on a quick restoration of power.
Sorry, I meant this for the op.
tblue37
(65,393 posts)aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)What about, "but there is no scalability limit," do you not understand!!??
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Sam McGee
(347 posts)Providing solar power to 3,500,000 people can be done -- one step at a time. Get started.
lame54
(35,292 posts)hunter
(38,316 posts)Soon a few wealthy, well connected, and corrupt Puerto Ricans will be enjoying their new Tesla power systems.
Someone in the Trump administration will suggest power plants fueled by U.S. coal as the answer. (Most power plants in Puerto Rico burn oil.)
Meanwhile, in neighborhoods where most people can't pay their electric bill on time, or at all, the power lines will remain down.
The problems with the power grid in Puerto Rico run deep.
If I was Elon Musk I'd ask local people what THEY needed and go with that.
It would be my inclination to assign power engineers to public hospitals, wastewater treatment plants, domestic water systems, and public schools. It seems to me that neighborhood schools with resilient power systems would be an excellent place for neighbors to charge cell phones and organize disaster relief.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Call me a cynic...
hunter
(38,316 posts)Such a privatization would leave many in the dark.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)[West Side Story]
Puerto Rico, my heart's devotion
Let it slip back in the ocean
Always the hurricanes blowing
Always the population growing
And the money owing
And the sunlight streaming
And the natives steaming
I like the isle of Manhattan
Smoke on your pipe and put that in
(I like to be in America
OK by me in America
Everything free in America
Boys: For a small fee in America
G: Buying on credit is so nice
B: One look at us and they charge twice
G: I have a new washing machine
B: What will you have though to keep clean?
G: Skyscrapers bloom in America
G: Cadillacs zoom in America
G: Industrial boom in America
B: Twelve in a room in America
G: Lots of new housing with more space
B: Lots of doors slamming in our face
G: I'll get a terraced apartment
B: Better get rid of your accent
G: Life can be bright in America
B: If you can fight in America
G: Life is all right in America
B: If you're all white in America
G: Here you are free and you have pride
B: Long as you stay on your own side
G: Free to be anything you choose
B: Free to wait tables and shine shoes
B: Everywhere grime in America
B: Organized crime in America
B: Terrible time in America
G: You forget I'm in America
B: I think I go back to San Juan
G: I know a boat you can get on
B: Everyone there will give big cheer
G: Everyone there will have moved here)
murielm99
(30,742 posts)West Side Story is one of my favorite musicals.
paleotn
(17,920 posts)On Tesla's dime as a test case in scalability? That would turn some heads in the US and elsewhere around the globe. And that's where the real money is....replacing the worlds aging generation infrastructure.
volstork
(5,401 posts)It will be enormously helpful for Puerto Rico, will show the power of renewable resources, and will be a slap in dotard's face.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)Puerto Rico gives the federal government 3-4 billion dollars a year. Yet they have no say on how that tax money is spent.
Rather than using tax money to rebuild the infrastructure, the GOP would greatly prefer to privatize the infrastructure of Puerto Rico. Typically these deals are quite sweet for investors, who make a profit off the new infrastructure for a limited time period (conveniently before it starts wearing out) and the local tax payers retain all liability.
Oh, and also?
That's their plan for the rest of the U.S. infrastructure, too...
LisaM
(27,813 posts)I don't trust Elon Musk.
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)The cost of individual installations looks like it would be less expensive than a complete rebuild
of the islands power distribution system to the rural areas.
Power Walls for all!
There's a wall you can get behind Mr Press-a-dent.
You could probably get a volume discount.
for Mr Musk.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)as far as they are concerned this is a socialist threat to Murica.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Watch. That's how the dino juice, coal, and gas industry, and our current dominant political elite will attack it; via damaging their ability to finance it.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)They just need to get the costs
nailed down.
dlk
(11,566 posts)lark
(23,102 posts)I really hope it can be done, would be so great to rebuild PR PLUS stick a thumb in big oil and by extention, drumpfs' eye by doing energy far better, & at much less cost. Perfect!!!
kentuck
(111,098 posts)PR could lead the world into the future, from their calamity.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)Elon Musk's Tesla to build world's biggest lithium ion battery to secure power for South Australia
South Australia will be home to the world's largest lithium ion battery thanks to a historic agreement between Tesla and the State Government.
And Tesla boss Elon Musk is promising to build it in 100 days, or it's free.
Key points:
A 100-megawatt (129 megawatt hour) battery is to be in place before summer
It will provide energy stability for SA and also be emergency back-up for shortfalls
Elon Musk is sticking by a "100 days or free" promise for SA taxpayers
Tesla will build the 100-megawatt battery which will store energy from French renewable company Neoen's Hornsdale Wind Farm near Jamestown, which is still under construction.
The project will be in place before summer.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-07/sa-to-get-worlds-biggest-lithium-ion-battery/8687268
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The guy's willing to put up if he can't do the job on time.
I confess I have a little bias towards my old home town and state.
hunter
(38,316 posts)Maybe enough time to respond to whatever is broken, maybe not.
The system has a lot of wind turbines. The batteries will soak up the energy of wind gusts, and release it when the wind slows.
The project is built partly in response to the financial games played by people selling the output of nimble gas power plants.
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/07/what-experts-have-to-say-about-teslas-giant-australian-battery/
The system isn't capable of storing significant amounts of energy across days the wind isn't blowing or the sun is not shining, but it's still useful in discouraging electricity price spikes which would not occur in a more heavily regulated market.
niyad
(113,324 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)THAT would be really cool