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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:35 PM Oct 2017

Just a what if moment

What if the players at Sunday’s game had been given a heads-up about Pence’s planned walk-out – and agreed ahead of time that no one would “take a knee”?

Pence would then have had no reason to walk out in a huff – except that we all know he was already scheduled to be elsewhere. He then would have had to leave with no excuse as to why – underscoring the fact that he’d spent taxpayer money to attend a game he never had any intention of staying for.

This whole scheme would have collapsed. There would have been nothing to pretend to be pissed-off about, no faux outrage to be tweeted about – and Trump’s head would have exploded.

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Just a what if moment (Original Post) NanceGreggs Oct 2017 OP
That would have been awesome Phoenix61 Oct 2017 #1
That would have taken the protest's focus off the target and made it about the administration. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #2
Sure. NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #3
Pretty small payoff for asking players who kneel to suspend their protest. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #4
Trump has already taken the focus off the protests... CatMor Oct 2017 #6
I'm wondering what will happen next week with Dallas... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #5
... NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #8
The ball is in their court. Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #10
One can only wish Ferrets are Cool Oct 2017 #11
And in the grand scheme it's too f'n childish for the presidency to be doing this crap eleny Oct 2017 #7
I want to know why this fine, upstanding Christian brer cat Oct 2017 #9
Everyone seems to be forgetting that rules dont apply to rethugs Ferrets are Cool Oct 2017 #12
Good point. NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #13
Money before God. nt brer cat Oct 2017 #14
Sordid dealings with the money changers on the Sabbath? KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #15
He was due at a republican fundraiser in Los Angeles... George II Oct 2017 #16
We can't over complicate our discussions... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2017 #17
That Would Have Been PRICELESS!! DoctorJoJo Oct 2017 #18
What if................. raven mad Oct 2017 #19
Pence and Trump would have bragged about getting players' respect wishstar Oct 2017 #20
See my post #3. n/t NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #21
I think he would have left at halftime n2doc Oct 2017 #22
This was a stunt Gothmog Oct 2017 #23

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
2. That would have taken the protest's focus off the target and made it about the administration.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

And Trump would have found some way to make it look good -- Pence's presence got them to behave, or something.

I find this line of speculation sad; as if once again, white people look for ways to center themselves and their desires in the protests and actions of POC.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
3. Sure.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:47 PM
Oct 2017

Of course, Trump would have bragged that everyone was now "behaving themselves" since his edict ... but it still would have left Pence twisting in the wind, trying to explain why he left the game before it started - which he had to do, because he was already scheduled to attend Rohrbacher's fundraiser.

I think people with functioning brains saw through this PR stunt anyway - but some of the low-functioners would be left wondering why Pence wasted their money to attend the game in the first place, when he knew he wasn't able to stay.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
6. Trump has already taken the focus off the protests...
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:13 PM
Oct 2017

he has made the kneeling about the flag instead of police killing blacks.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
5. I'm wondering what will happen next week with Dallas...
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:56 PM
Oct 2017

JJones, their owner, promised to bench any players who refuse to stand for the anthem.

What happens if the whole team flips him a big bird and they all kneel? Does he cave in and let them play? Does he force them to forfeit? The mind boggles.

brer cat

(24,568 posts)
9. I want to know why this fine, upstanding Christian
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:14 PM
Oct 2017

was attending a fundraiser on Sunday. Isn't that working on the Lord's day? I seem to recall "'Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy..."

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
13. Good point.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:20 PM
Oct 2017

Pence is your classic Christian-of-convenience. God's law is always open to re-interpretation when it interferes with a "good Christian's" personal agenda.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
15. Sordid dealings with the money changers on the Sabbath?
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:39 PM
Oct 2017

Standard GOP exceptionalism.

The corporate religious right is funded every Sunday morning from thousands of collection plates.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. He was due at a republican fundraiser in Los Angeles...
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:39 PM
Oct 2017

...scheduled for 6:30 PM (9:30 Indianapolis time).

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
17. We can't over complicate our discussions...
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 12:32 AM
Oct 2017

...when that is done, cries of elitism and hatred come forth. Leave it as it was, the simpler, the better. These are mind challenged times. (I don't know whether or not to use here)

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
20. Pence and Trump would have bragged about getting players' respect
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 03:52 AM
Oct 2017

WH would have taken credit to save face, had the players all stood and none kneeled

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
22. I think he would have left at halftime
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:35 AM
Oct 2017

After the Manning ceremony. I don't think he was so pressed for time he couldn't spare an hour if forced.

But a protest was a near certainty, especially with the players knowing he was in attendance.

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