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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Catalan President: "Catalonia should become a state"
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"Catalonia has won the right to be independent".
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BREAKING: Catalan President: "Catalonia should become a state" (Original Post)
brooklynite
Oct 2017
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Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)1. not a declaration of independence so far.
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)2. Not unilateral...
Catalan President said he would enter discussions with the Spanish Government, but with Independence as the goal.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)3. better than civil war
But I hope Catalonia backs down or settles for further autonomy.
The last thing Europe needs is further Balkanization.
Denzil_DC
(7,241 posts)6. The Spanish government's refusal to hold discussions since 2011 is a major factor in recent events.
That and eroding what autonomy Catalonia had already been granted.
... since 2010, the Spanish judicial body known as the Constitutional Tribunal has refuted many pieces of legislation approved by the Catalan Parliament. This stands in contrast to the U.S., where the Supreme Court deliberates on constitutional matters. In Spain, the Constitutional Tribunal has overturned political decisions made by the Catalan Parliament, such as the housing emergency and fuel poverty bills and a Catalan statute in 2006. This has strengthened Catalonias desire for true independence from Spain.
Often, the Constitutional Tribunal has also acted in accordance with the Spanish Executive Cabinet, leading many to question the separation of powers between the two. Ten members of the 12-person Constitutional Tribunal are political appointees. The other two are appointed by the General Council of Judicial Power the body in charge of overseeing the judiciary in Spain. The council is also primarily appointed politically. Meanwhile, the Spanish Executive Cabinet has refused, since 2011, to negotiate with their Catalan counterparts on issues to do with more autonomy.
In fact, since 2011, Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy and his government have ruled primarily by decrees, which do not require input from the legislative branch. For example, the first Rajoy government (20112015) approved 33.8 percent of its legislation by decrees. Compare this to a figure of 20 percent the previous time the same party was in power (2000-2004).
Further evidence of the authoritarian turn of the Spanish government is the approval of repressive laws such as one known popularly as the Gag Law (Ley Mordaza in Spanish) in 2015. The law criminalizes many forms of protest and imposes high fines. The government claimed it would protect public order. This law, and the use of excessive force by police in Spain, has been repeatedly denounced by international organizations such as Amnesty International.
http://theconversation.com/catalonias-referendum-unmasks-authoritarianism-in-spain-84901
Often, the Constitutional Tribunal has also acted in accordance with the Spanish Executive Cabinet, leading many to question the separation of powers between the two. Ten members of the 12-person Constitutional Tribunal are political appointees. The other two are appointed by the General Council of Judicial Power the body in charge of overseeing the judiciary in Spain. The council is also primarily appointed politically. Meanwhile, the Spanish Executive Cabinet has refused, since 2011, to negotiate with their Catalan counterparts on issues to do with more autonomy.
In fact, since 2011, Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy and his government have ruled primarily by decrees, which do not require input from the legislative branch. For example, the first Rajoy government (20112015) approved 33.8 percent of its legislation by decrees. Compare this to a figure of 20 percent the previous time the same party was in power (2000-2004).
Further evidence of the authoritarian turn of the Spanish government is the approval of repressive laws such as one known popularly as the Gag Law (Ley Mordaza in Spanish) in 2015. The law criminalizes many forms of protest and imposes high fines. The government claimed it would protect public order. This law, and the use of excessive force by police in Spain, has been repeatedly denounced by international organizations such as Amnesty International.
http://theconversation.com/catalonias-referendum-unmasks-authoritarianism-in-spain-84901
Measures where the Spanish Government have overturned decisions of the Catalan Government include the re-legalization of bullfighting (to give one relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things, but iconic, and to some important and unprogressive, example) and other issues which are arguably the legitimate concern of a sub-state government.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)4. I'd be interested in moving there with refugee status
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)5. Will they be in the EU?
I assume that millions will lineup for passports at a reasonable processing fee
They'd have to be admitted. You can bet Spain will lobby against that.