But that idea will get nowhere. It is so baked into American culture that the suggestion to get rid of it would be resented more than the kneeling would.

I totally agree with you. Why are they playing the NA anyway at sporting events?

Time to end playing the national anthem at all sporting events.

disrespectful to the flag. Then again, I will never respect the "disrespected the flag" argument.

The football team owners are trying to cash in on people's feeling of patriotism, but watching football has nothing to do with being patriotic.

I don't thin a solid argument can be made. I haven't seen one.

"The football team owners are trying to cash in on people's feeling of patriotism, but watching football has nothing to do with being patriotic."

Corporate America trying to cash in off of patriotism? Say it ain't so.

in their online site?

U.S. Flag Code,
Section 8
c. The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

http://www.titansonline.com/stadium/stadium-policies.html

No, I don't consider it to be disrespectful. I can't for the life of me think why it would be. The whole who is more patriotic thing going on has people making some strange arguments in order to outdo one and other.

Members of the military are representing the US. Members of football teams are representing only their teams.

No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.

U.S. Flag Code: How to Respect the Flag | Military.com
www.military.com/flag-day/us-flag-code.html

Not sure what made you think otherwise.

The military doesn't follow that section of the code. It was a simple and accurate point I was making.

The military has an exception that allows them to wear a flag patch on their uniforms. Football teams don't.

And there is nothing in the code that says a football team is allowed to lay a giant flag on its field.

As its members often do. I'm just not all pro-military proceedure like you and don't see what that would have to do with patriotism in the first place.

"And there is nothing in the code that says a football team is allowed to lay a giant flag on its field."

There is nothing that says they aren't allowed to do so legally. That would be a gross violation of the First Amendment.

This is what it looks like when we delve into the chest bumping act of out patriotisming people. It's never pretty.

to pretend to be so patriotic, the least they could do is respect the flag code.

There is no such law for civilians. I do not believe it’s illegal as you state.

If a one-up of patriotism is needed I would stick to Kid Rock cutting a hole in the American flag and wearing it as a poncho. My argument would still simply be he wore it well considering his audience. That audience being people who only get upset when one side disrespects the flag. Similar audiences are present across differing platforms. It’s just one big flag waving contest.

leagues were as patriotic as they claim, they would follow the law with or without penalties.

They are being nothing but hypocritical when they say that kneeling is disrespecting the flag, when they disrespect the flag routinely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the national flag of the United States of America. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but the penalty described in Title 18 of the United States Code (18 U.S.C. § 700) for failure to comply with it is not enforced.

And hold no penalty.

It’s illegal!!!

We are seeing a lot of people making this about the flag and how they are more patriotic than others. All of them are losing the argument as it does nothing but distract us from the issue.

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Why are these same people not protesting the whole sport of football and all the stadiums? In the U.S. Flag Code,
Section 8
c. The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
d, The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Seems the NFL carries the flag horizontally at almost every game, and low and behold, all that clothing. The bandannas, the shirts, the jeans. the caps, and the list goes on. Nothing says disrespecting the flag more than a bandanna on the head or a pair of pants made out of the flag motif that a person farts in, but hey those things are usually worn by white people so it is ok. A great example of one of the reasons players are kneeling.

So the Titans, for example, are violating the US Flag Code.

http://www.titansonline.com/stadium/stadium-policies.html

You are correct

Ahh yes morality and ethics, follow link to see how Jerry follows those two things.


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I am sorry to ask you to follow the link but for some reason when I post the info for the photo it does not show the photo. yes, I have gone to a photo sharing site, and yes I have copied and pasted the photo.

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Sorry I don’t have time to google it; outside of the military and police the flag is not to be worn as part off a uniform including sports uniforms