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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUnprecedented - The tension between a president and his secretary of state has never been this bad
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2017/10/the_tension_between_trump_and_tillerson_is_unprecedented.htmlTo discuss Tillersons bizarre tenure, and much else, I spoke by phone recently with Aaron David Miller, the Middle East program director at the Wilson Center who served in the State Department for 25 years and advised secretaries of state of both parties. During the course of our conversation, which has been edited and condensed for clarity, we discussed Tillersons mistakes at the State Department, why its so disturbing when a president and secretary of state dont get along, and why Trump will never allow an effective person to run the department.
Isaac Chotiner: Have you ever seen an equivalent to the Trump-Tillerson relationship among presidents and their secretaries of state?
Aaron David Miller: No. I worked for half a dozenShultz to Powelland for one of my books I interviewed every living secretary of state, including Alexander Haig. There is no precedent either for this kind of public tension, and no precedent for a secretary feeling compelled to respond to press reports the way Secretary Tillerson did the other day. And there is no precedent for open talk of resignation by a secretary of state, at least in the modern period. That also sets this whole episode apart.
Only three secretaries of state in the whole history of the republic have resigned over principle. And only two in the modern period served less than a year and a half. Ed Muskie, when Cyrus Vance resigned in March of 1980 in opposition to Carters military mission to rescue the hostages in Iran, served out the rest of his term. Haig served about a year and a half and then left because of tensions within the [Reagan] Cabinet.
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Unprecedented - The tension between a president and his secretary of state has never been this bad (Original Post)
fleur-de-lisa
Oct 2017
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zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)1. Jefferson
For all Jefferson was, he was probably the worst secretary of state ever and had huge conflicts with both President Washington and other cabinet members.
ffr
(22,670 posts)2. Look on the bright side. If Dotard is forced to resign, his criminal, Rex, will probably accept it.