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fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 05:11 PM Oct 2017

Bundle up: Experts say this winter is going to be pretty brutal

http://www.wdsu.com/article/2017-2018-winter-forecast/12813894

If the lingering summer temps have you wondering when sweater weather will finally hit, don't worry. Winter is on its way, and this won't be a mild, light jacket affair. Meteorologists are predicting an above-average snowfall will bury the Northeast, with subzero temperatures chilling the Plains to a not-so-toasty negative 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

Both the New York City and Boston areas could see an extra 6 inches this season, so treat yo' self to a new snow shovel, or maybe even a slopeside trip. "This year is going to bring a good ski season in the Northeast," says AccuWeather Lead Long-Range Forecaster Paul Pastelok. "And around the holidays we should have some snow for the interior Northeast."

The Farmer's Almanac predicted a similar season for New England when it announced this year's forecast in August. According to the guide's 200-year-old formula, the Atlantic seaboard will see big storms on January 20-23; February 4-7 and 16-19; and March 1-3.

While those Midwest winters are always never-going-outside-again cold, the Plains region and Great Lakes areas can expect especially frigid temps going into 2018. Pastelok is predicting regular subzero readings, including that frightening negative 30 number. While he says the Dakotas should see less snow, the Rockies can expect a solid dumping. The ski season is shaping up there as well thanks to a weak La Niña, an ocean-atmosphere phenomenon associated with cooler temperatures in the Pacific Ocean.
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Bundle up: Experts say this winter is going to be pretty brutal (Original Post) fleur-de-lisa Oct 2017 OP
Yeah we had a pretty mild one here in Iowa last year 47of74 Oct 2017 #1
Hated walking around last year.......if we got snow, it would freeze at night a kennedy Oct 2017 #3
It has been getting milder and milder over the past 20 years rurallib Oct 2017 #26
My bunions say the same thing, by crackey Achilleaze Oct 2017 #2
Not sure why anyone would trust the farmers almanac predictions. clutterbox1830 Oct 2017 #4
Last year's 70 degree days in December in the NY tristate area freaked me out. I hated it. Squinch Oct 2017 #5
Looks like the jury is out on the southeast. B2G Oct 2017 #6
The wolly bear caterpiller says it will be mild Fullduplexxx Oct 2017 #7
Yay! Chellee Oct 2017 #13
I came across narrow banded ones. NT. NutmegYankee Oct 2017 #15
This little guy says mild. Fullduplexxx Oct 2017 #16
You do realize this is an old wives tale right? NutmegYankee Oct 2017 #24
I think it is as good a predictor as anything else this far out Fullduplexxx Oct 2017 #25
what's the caterpillar look like, the couple I've seen don't have that brown circle around it this a kennedy Oct 2017 #17
See the previous post Fullduplexxx Oct 2017 #21
Yah, but the little fella I was talking about was ALL black.....no brown at all. a kennedy Oct 2017 #22
You caterpillar is fake news lol Fullduplexxx Oct 2017 #23
I expect Houston areas next 50 ! inches of rain "extreme climate change weather" to be snow n ice :P Sunlei Oct 2017 #8
Considering it's October 10 and in the 80s here (NJ) crazycatlady Oct 2017 #9
it was 50 this morning in Dallas snooper2 Oct 2017 #20
In my experience, nothing brings on a mild winter marybourg Oct 2017 #10
When will it start ? California has still been pretty warm JI7 Oct 2017 #11
That's not what the Climate Prediction Center says. Dread Pirate Roberts Oct 2017 #12
They predicted above average temps all through our miserably cold spring. NutmegYankee Oct 2017 #14
The nice thing about -30 degrees is that the snow is dry aikoaiko Oct 2017 #18
and the dumb as dirt gop will laugh and say what global warming and another senator will bring in a dembotoz Oct 2017 #19
Let's bookmark this post PJMcK Oct 2017 #27

a kennedy

(29,666 posts)
3. Hated walking around last year.......if we got snow, it would freeze at night
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 05:26 PM
Oct 2017

then would melt some during the day, then freeze, and melt some again during the day. HATED IT. Either snow and stay until Spring, or don't snow. It was horrible last year. I live in Southeasten MN.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
26. It has been getting milder and milder over the past 20 years
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 04:59 PM
Oct 2017

with climate change I don't expect that trend to change.

We had only a little snow last year in SE Iowa and that is also a trend I don't expect to change.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
4. Not sure why anyone would trust the farmers almanac predictions.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 05:33 PM
Oct 2017

This is the 6th year in a row they predicted above average snow in my area. Last two winters have been mild. Over the past decade they were wrong 60% of the time on snow and 50% wrong on temperature. I'm guessing the another mild winter again due to El Nino. I can randomly guess like the best of them too.



Chellee

(2,097 posts)
13. Yay!
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 11:14 PM
Oct 2017

I have more faith in the woolly worms. I hope it's mild. My windows need replacing, and my bank account said, "BWAAHAHAHAAA!!!" So that's probably not happening.

🐛 (we need a wooly worm emoji, in the meantime, have this little green caterpillar instead)

a kennedy

(29,666 posts)
17. what's the caterpillar look like, the couple I've seen don't have that brown circle around it this
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:55 AM
Oct 2017

year. They were both just black. Does that mean mild??

a kennedy

(29,666 posts)
22. Yah, but the little fella I was talking about was ALL black.....no brown at all.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:52 PM
Oct 2017
So, I wonder if we're going to have a cold and snowy winter. Or if it's a different kind.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. I expect Houston areas next 50 ! inches of rain "extreme climate change weather" to be snow n ice :P
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 05:46 PM
Oct 2017
build a giant snowman

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
9. Considering it's October 10 and in the 80s here (NJ)
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:26 PM
Oct 2017

BRING.IT.ON! Seriously I am wondering where fall is. I'm a cold weather person.

(Especially for days when there's a protest march. Cold weather= more pussyhats sold).

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
10. In my experience, nothing brings on a mild winter
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:16 PM
Oct 2017

as reliably as the " experts" predicting a cold one. And vice versa.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
12. That's not what the Climate Prediction Center says.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:43 PM
Oct 2017

These conditions have not historically created extreme cold and snow in the northeast.





He also states that he predicts a weal La Nina. The ENSO prediction is for a La Nina conditions to develop.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
14. They predicted above average temps all through our miserably cold spring.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:28 AM
Oct 2017

And predicted above average in early summer even when it was cool and wet. It didn't get nice this summer until August.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
18. The nice thing about -30 degrees is that the snow is dry
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:57 AM
Oct 2017


Which makes it easy to push around.

Brrr cold tho.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
19. and the dumb as dirt gop will laugh and say what global warming and another senator will bring in a
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 09:58 AM
Oct 2017

snowball

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