Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

bdamomma

(63,850 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:15 PM Oct 2017

Ok I Got Two Things To Say Give Your Feedback

1. Weinstein women are coming out about abuse and sexual harassment. Calling all those women who were sexually abused or harassed by tRump, (who only thinks with his little middle leg) to come out of the shadows and speak out.

2. If Hillary said "fuck off" to Donald when he was looming behind her during the debates, (forget about political correctness) would she have shaken things up?

feedback please.

8 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Ok I Got Two Things To Say Give Your Feedback (Original Post) bdamomma Oct 2017 OP
As to #2, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #1
half would have loved hillary for it and half would have... samnsara Oct 2017 #2
As to #2 ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #3
The most Hillary mercuryblues Oct 2017 #4
I know she's said now that she regrets not doing something at the time gratuitous Oct 2017 #5
I like how she handled it mercuryblues Oct 2017 #6
Thanks for your honest answers bdamomma Oct 2017 #7
My 2 cents. Caliman73 Oct 2017 #8

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. As to #2,
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:18 PM
Oct 2017

The media would have criticized Clinton for her rudeness, and
Trump would have seen it as a win for him because he lowered the bar for their conversation.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
2. half would have loved hillary for it and half would have...
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:26 PM
Oct 2017

...demonized her. This country didn't deserve her. Our loss.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. As to #2
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:32 PM
Oct 2017

Yes, but not as you phrased it. It would have been effective if she had simply stated during the debates, "It's difficult to answer the questions with you leering over my shoulder. Could you step away, please?" that would have been enough to call attention to his misbehavior.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
4. The most Hillary
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:48 PM
Oct 2017

should have done was roll her eyes. As in can you believe this shit? and kept on with her answer.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. I know she's said now that she regrets not doing something at the time
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:54 PM
Oct 2017

But really, I think totally ignoring him in real time was the way to go. If she had reacted at all, it would have been blown up as a "victory" by Trump for goading her into a reaction, and all the media would have covered it just like that. Oh, there might have been one or two minor voices talking about what a dick move Trump had made, but they would have been of no consequence.

Afterwards, on the stump, might have been the time to mention it, but in a way that made Trump look small and petty: "Did you see the way Donald was padding after me like some attention-starved puppy? It was like he couldn't stand to be too far from me."

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
6. I like how she handled it
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:24 PM
Oct 2017

Even though we now know what she was thinking at the time, by ignoring him she not only made him look worse, she also showed she is not someone who is easily rattled. I would not want to play poker with her.

Which is why she was on that stage and not me. I would have kicked him in the gut and watched him puke all over the stage.

bdamomma

(63,850 posts)
7. Thanks for your honest answers
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:12 PM
Oct 2017

but regards to #2 question, I heard on Progressive radio if she did say that to tRump what would have happened. But the pros and cons to this question were adequately answered. Is our party to politically correct? or when they go low we go high mentality? or do we have to play dirty, 2018 is coming quickly.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
8. My 2 cents.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:23 PM
Oct 2017

#1. It is difficult for women, even women who have perceived power (I.E. Paltrow and Jolie) to come out, especially when the men who are abusing them, have even greater power, but I agree and wish that more people would come out and that abusers would be held accountable.

#2. I don't think that it was "political correctness" that stopped Hillary from calling Trump out on his blatant attempt at intimidation. It was more a case of being damned if you do and damned if you don't. I think that Hillary regrets not doing so because it looked as if she, being one of the most powerful women in the world, could not stand up to a bully (which I personally think is not true). She did the best thing that she could, which was stick to her answer and performance like Trump wasn't there. If she would have said, "Hey, back off" or something to that effect, she would have been labeled "inappropriate" or "aggressive" by the media. They would have run with the story and played it up for its sensationalism, not focusing on Trump predatory behavior, but on Clinton's aggression. Clinton was the single most qualified person in modern history to run for the Presidency, but she had to be damn near perfect to beat this walking anus, and while she beat him in the popular vote and without cheating, the sad fact is that the cards were stacked up against her because she is a woman, and because she is Hillary Clinton. She would have gotten raked over the coals for touching Trump up, even though he deserved it.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Ok I Got Two Things To Sa...