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Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:49 PM Oct 2017

I have a question about the California fires.

Watching the news, they are reporting people missing. They are concerned that since the fire rushed through at night, they might have been caught unaware and not been able to get out in time.

I live in tornado country. There is a siren system that warns us of approaching tornadoes 24/7. Is there no system in place to warn residents in fire prone areas of dangerous conditions so they can evacuate?

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I have a question about the California fires. (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Oct 2017 OP
People do not not always bother to evacuate Not Ruth Oct 2017 #1
The first warning is the smoke in the sky wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #2
A Fire Is Not Like a Tornado Leith Oct 2017 #3
It was blowing so hard, I don't think you could have been heard a siren Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #4
They were showing a hospital still trying to evacuate critical patients in thick smoke procon Oct 2017 #5
Some people stay, to stand atop their roof and fight the flames. . . Journeyman Oct 2017 #6
Maybe not. maxsolomon Oct 2017 #7
Thanks all for the replies. The news story I heard left the impression that Arkansas Granny Oct 2017 #8
Most of California is prone to wild fires left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #9
 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
1. People do not not always bother to evacuate
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 06:55 PM
Oct 2017

I know people with kids 5 miles from Fire 2 (no idea what that is) complaining that they cannot BBQ outside due to the smoke. Both highly educated, well paid people that could take a month of vacation just about anywhere. But they are riding it out for some reason.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
2. The first warning is the smoke in the sky
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:00 PM
Oct 2017

Then if you live by an airport with fire bombers you see them coming and going at a steady pace.

Then turn on the news or your cell phone to get the news.

Fires can go from 2000 acres to 20,000 in hours and are directed by the winds.

You really never know which way it is going to turn.

If it is heading toward homes etc. you are evacuated.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
3. A Fire Is Not Like a Tornado
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:02 PM
Oct 2017

You know days - or at least hours - in advance that there is a wildfire in the area. The air smells like smoke from far away (I could smell the smoke from a fire in San Bernardino County, CA, in Las Vegas - more than an hour's drive away). If it's close, you can see the smoke and you feel it when you breathe.

TV and radio tell listeners and viewers often about danger areas, who should evacuate, which direction to evacuate, and so on. Unless you are very close to where an untended campfire got out of hand and suddenly set a whole forest on fire, they don't sneak up on you like a tornado.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
4. It was blowing so hard, I don't think you could have been heard a siren
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:03 PM
Oct 2017

My hometown had a fire horn system that was number codded. You could count the blasts before and after the pause, then check the card on the wall and know what valley was burning.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. They were showing a hospital still trying to evacuate critical patients in thick smoke
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:30 PM
Oct 2017

with flames visible just down the street. It happened so fast that the staff were putting patients into their own cars just to escape.

I've had some close calls with brush fires in my area and they can move faster than a car and change directions without warning. Only once did I actually start to evacuate when the smoke was so thick it was getting hard to see and breathe. I couldn't see where the flames were anymore, but ash and live embers were falling out of the air. I loaded the car with the fur people and a few, very few essentials, and headed out. By the time I reached the highway the radio was saying thefire was mostly out. I was a very frightening experience.

Journeyman

(15,035 posts)
6. Some people stay, to stand atop their roof and fight the flames. . .
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:49 PM
Oct 2017

They are successful at times, so it encourages others. Some people, who live in the canyons and among the trees and shrub that will burn, will build swimming pools or install large tanks of water for the express purpose of potentially saving their home.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/25539251/jeff-checks-in-with-man-who-fought-to-save-his-home

http://www.cbs8.com/story/25545665/teen-saves-house-asks-homeowner-to-pay-it-forward


Sometimes they're successful. Sometimes they're not. Sometimes they die. Hard to cheer or fault them until we ourselves stand in their shoes.

Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
8. Thanks all for the replies. The news story I heard left the impression that
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:57 PM
Oct 2017

there had not been sufficient warning for people to evacuate. I hope those who are missing are found.

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