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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:40 AM Oct 2017

In Las Vegas, the casino is always watching -- and yet it missed Stephen Paddock

Matt Pearce, Jaweed Kaleem , Melissa Etehad and Richard WintonContact Reporters

The casino hotels on the Las Vegas Strip, with all their glitzy delights, aren’t just palaces of distraction. They’re miniature surveillance states.

A typical facility might be armed with thousands of cameras, which watch gamblers as they enter, while they play and when they leave. The footage is stored as potential evidence and monitored by internal security forces who are prepared to dispatch a response within moments in case of problems.

“In Vegas, everybody’s gotta watch everybody else,” Robert De Niro said in the 1995 drama “Casino.” Dealers watch the players, pit bosses watch the people watching the dealers, and the “eye in the sky” — the camera — watches over all.

The thought of beating that eye in the sky has inspired a generation of glam heist movies, starting with “Ocean’s 11.” But now, questions are mounting over a very different type of crime than the grifting and grabbing scams Vegas has always been obsessed with — the mass shooting mounted on Oct. 1 from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

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In Las Vegas, the casino is always watching -- and yet it missed Stephen Paddock (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP

There are not cameras in rooms. former9thward Oct 2017 #1

Not surprising. 99% of that focus is on preventing cheating, fraud and theft stevenleser Oct 2017 #2

Casinos are not hotels and hotels are not casinos. The authors seem to think they're the same. Towlie Oct 2017 #3

They watch the gaming tables and the casino floor. forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #4

He didn't shoot from a casino dumbcat Oct 2017 #5

"Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said investigators had compiled 200 'instances' of Paddock moving WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #6

former9thward

(32,055 posts)

1. There are not cameras in rooms.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:49 AM

Oct 2017

Is that what the author wants?

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)

2. Not surprising. 99% of that focus is on preventing cheating, fraud and theft

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:50 AM

Oct 2017

Bringing a bunch of huge suitcases isn’t likely to attract attention. In fact, casinos tend to want to cater to their guests and not disturb them or want them to leave.

One of the unfortunate examples of this is that casinos allow smoking on the gambling floor. When I have to go to Vegas for a convention, I refuse to gamble because of this. Last time I did it felt like I needed a double lung transplant.

Towlie

(5,327 posts)

3. Casinos are not hotels and hotels are not casinos. The authors seem to think they're the same.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:51 AM

Oct 2017

Paddock considered other hotels that weren't even connected with casinos. The article makes no sense.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)

4. They watch the gaming tables and the casino floor.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:13 AM

Oct 2017

Surveillance for the hotel is probably barely a secondary concern to the casino. A casino has a 24/7 "mission control" setup watching gambling at all times. The hotel probably has security cameras, but likely the eye in the sky isn't watching who checks into the hotel and who carries what luggage around unless they follow a cheater off the floor. Unless this guy threw down an AK on the blackjack felt, this isn't really their job to concern themselves with the privacy of hotel guests.