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IamFortunesFool

(348 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:42 PM Oct 2017

Kelly performance at WHPB demonstrates that we have no end in sight.

I won't add my personal speculations as to WHY so many of our leaders continue to coddle Trump, but as John Kelly's performance amply demonstrated, they have no intention of checking his insanity or removing him from office.

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Kelly performance at WHPB demonstrates that we have no end in sight. (Original Post) IamFortunesFool Oct 2017 OP
Could they be surreptitiously taking steps? Just a thought Siwsan Oct 2017 #1
I can't begin to fathom the rationale that has allowed anyone to accept things thus far... IamFortunesFool Oct 2017 #4
I would love to know some speculations? Does he have dirt on them or something? HipChick Oct 2017 #2
Absolute power corrupts absolutely IamFortunesFool Oct 2017 #5
This has been very clear for the past six months. ananda Oct 2017 #3
Unless he's hauled out of the White House in handcuffs wryter2000 Oct 2017 #6
Argh WomanWhoRoars Oct 2017 #7
I think confused and upset is entirely deserved IamFortunesFool Oct 2017 #8
I've stopped believing the "White House in chaos" stories. EL34x4 Oct 2017 #9

Siwsan

(26,287 posts)
1. Could they be surreptitiously taking steps? Just a thought
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:47 PM
Oct 2017

If they would come public with any sort of info on trying to contain him, he'd just go off of the rails, even more, and who knows what sort of terror he would cause, just out of anger.

IamFortunesFool

(348 posts)
4. I can't begin to fathom the rationale that has allowed anyone to accept things thus far...
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:54 PM
Oct 2017

To be honest, I privately indulge in mercurial daily levels of conspiracy, and the dynamics around the Trump presidency are a ripe fallow for such sinister possibilities. But all conspiracies aside, there is no excuse for this abomination of a president still being in office unless large swaths of our government are comprised and the public remains digitally enraged but physically neutered. It is both the fault of those in power and those of us standing idly by that this man still inhabits the White House.

IamFortunesFool

(348 posts)
5. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:05 PM
Oct 2017

Those who didn't compromise themselves to gain their place in this cabal have done so by continued association with it.

That said, I mainly suspect that the primary motivation for at least Kelly is a patriotic sense (however misguided) to right the Ship of State. There is legitimate concern that removing Trump from office could quite quickly lead to armed civil conflict because of his delusional supporters; many of whom would genuinely love nothing less. I live in Trumpganistan, and these crazy fucks are ready to fire shots over the NFL protests, let alone any attempt to dethrone their Dear Leader. It truly is a cult of personality.

There are obviously many involved with this administration for selfish, short term gain or glory. There are also players with treasonous, insidious motives. And I suspect there are some, like Kelly, who were dared to ride the dragon and now have to hold on so that it doesn't wreck AS catastrophically.

Fuck them all.

wryter2000

(46,076 posts)
6. Unless he's hauled out of the White House in handcuffs
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:13 PM
Oct 2017

No one is going to do anything about him. The Dems don't have the power, and the Repigs still think he's useful to them.

WomanWhoRoars

(175 posts)
7. Argh
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:14 PM
Oct 2017

I find myself both confused and upset by Kelly at the press briefing. I get that he can't come out and say Trump is nuts but I didn't expect him to normalize him either.

IamFortunesFool

(348 posts)
8. I think confused and upset is entirely deserved
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:26 PM
Oct 2017

...and not just because of today's briefing. Our entire culture has become a bewildering array of competing fictions.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
9. I've stopped believing the "White House in chaos" stories.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:12 PM
Oct 2017

Seems each week there's a new tale of an unhinged President Trump on the precipice of a total meltdown surrounded by a demoralized, mutinous staff. They all quote the same "unnamed White House insiders" and "officials close to the President".

And then we get Kelly's press briefing today telling us it's all bullshit. And as far as I can tell, he seems to be right.

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