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onenote

(42,733 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:53 PM Oct 2017

The argument that NBC isn't licensed is a red herring. Don't fall for it.

For some reason, I see lots of posts here and elsewhere mocking Trump for suggesting that NBC's license should be revoked. After all, NBC does not need or have a "license" to operate as a broadcast network. But don't be fooled. It is a red herring.

NBC owns TV stations that have licenses. Lots of TV stations. And those stations' licenses can be challenged on the basis of what NBC does. Moreover, individual stations that are affiliated with NBC are not insulated from challenge because the content they originate comes from the NBC network -- stations are held responsible for what they put on the air no matter what the source.

I've been practicing law before the FCC for almost 40 years. The first broadcast license case I worked on was the RKO General case, which began in the mid 1960s and carried over until the early 1980s (which is when I worked on it). RKO ended up losing a station license (and was on the verge of losing other licenses when it sold its stations) for a variety of misdeeds that supported the conclusion that it lacked the "character" to hold a broadcast license. Some of those misdeeds related to the conduct of its broadcast business, such as deceptive, anticompetitive practices, and, most importantly, a lack of candor in its dealings with the FCC. But also cited at various points in the proceedings was misconduct committed by RKO's parent, General Tire, that were unrelated to the broadcast business, such as bribing foreign officials.

So while it may seem like a "gotcha" to point out that the NBC "network" isn't licensed, I can guarantee that NBC understands the nature of Trump's threat and doesn't shrug it off because the network doesn't have a license -- not when their stations, and the stations that broadcast their programming, could be targeted based on what NBC does or doesn't do.

That being said, there is no way the FCC is going to act as the "truth" arbiter in a challenge to the licenses held by NBC or by its affiliated stations. As the Supreme Court stated way back in 1974: "A responsible press is an undoubtedly desirable goal, but press responsibility is not mandated by the Constitution, and, like many other virtues, it cannot be legislated." And while broadcast stations historically haven't had the same unfettered first amendment protection given the print media, those distinctions are falling away in the era of digital, Internet communications.

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The argument that NBC isn't licensed is a red herring. Don't fall for it. (Original Post) onenote Oct 2017 OP
You are correct sir. Liberal In Texas Oct 2017 #1
your experience is most welcome, but in this case, unblock Oct 2017 #2
Thank you. mahina Oct 2017 #3
My understanding is (and please correct me if I am wrong) Stonepounder Oct 2017 #4
You're right. The FCC doesn't license cable systems or cable programming networks onenote Oct 2017 #11
Good point. nt Duppers Oct 2017 #12
Trump's insane threats are just more idle musings, the product of a rotted by FoxNews brain. Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #5
Legally true Roy Rolling Oct 2017 #6
...."Trump isn't a legal scholar". SergeStorms Oct 2017 #8
I think the toddler in chief's real problem is with MSNBC which is cable and not broadcast. TexasProgresive Oct 2017 #7
K&R... spanone Oct 2017 #9
Donny really puts the D in Dictator IronLionZion Oct 2017 #10

Liberal In Texas

(13,566 posts)
1. You are correct sir.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:58 PM
Oct 2017

And I worked in broadcast TV for over 30 years at network affiliates and an O&O and we were all very aware about license renewal and what we had to do to keep it.

unblock

(52,285 posts)
2. your experience is most welcome, but in this case,
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:13 PM
Oct 2017

it doesn't take much to appreciate that their business depends on licenses and that the "network" is screwed if all the licenses they depend on were revoked.

mahina

(17,686 posts)
3. Thank you.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:13 PM
Oct 2017

That's very useful perspective, informed by your experience. I know everyone here will appreciate it.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
4. My understanding is (and please correct me if I am wrong)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:47 PM
Oct 2017

that the FCC only licenses material that is broadcast over the airwaves, but doesn't have any control over material that is broadcast over cable. Not that it wouldn't be a real mess if Trump tries to shut NBC up, but they could keep sending out the material to anyone who watches via cable rather than the airwaves, n'est pas?

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
6. Legally true
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:07 PM
Oct 2017

But Trump isn't a legal scholar. He thinks he can yank NBC's license that doesn't exist, except in his mind.

If an attorney had said it I would think differently.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
8. ...."Trump isn't a legal scholar".
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:38 PM
Oct 2017
:

Sorry, but that's the funniest thing I've read all day.

The jury is still out on the premise that Trump is a human being.



TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
7. I think the toddler in chief's real problem is with MSNBC which is cable and not broadcast.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:29 PM
Oct 2017

He probably doesn't know the difference. Now hitting NBC owned stations for the broadcast licenses may be an attempt to hit them where they can.

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