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spanone

(135,833 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:10 PM Oct 2017

NRA opposes bump fire stocks bills in Congress

(CNN)The National Rifle Association says it is opposed to new legislation in the US Senate and the House that would ban the production and sale of "bump fire stocks," a firearm accessory that allows semi-automatic weapons to fire at a more rapid pace like automatic ones.

Bump stocks became a major source of discussion on Capitol Hill over the last two weeks after the attachments were found on guns of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock. In the Senate, Democrat Dianne Feinstein of California introduced a bill that would make it illegal for companies to make and individuals to buy bump stocks. Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, also introduced a bipartisan bill in the House of Representatives banning the bump stocks."

The ATF should review bump-fire stocks to ensure they comply with federal law," said Jennifer Baker, spokeswoman for the Institute for Legislative Action at the NRA, referencing the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. "We oppose the gun-control legislation being offered by Senator Feinstein and Representatives Curbelo and Moulton. These bills are intentionally overreaching and would ban commonly owned firearm accessories."

In lieu of the legislation, the NRA have begun pushing for an administrative fix. In a letter last week, the NRA's leadership Chris Cox and Wayne LaPierre argued that bump stocks should be subject to regulation, but that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should make the regulatory changes essentially avoiding an all-out legislative fight over gun control on the floor of the House or Senate


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/politics/nra-opposes-bump-stock-bills/index.html
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NRA opposes bump fire stocks bills in Congress (Original Post) spanone Oct 2017 OP
Who could have imagined the NRA coming out against a bill like this? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #1
October 5th....NYTimes: N.R.A. Supports New Rules on Bump Stock Devices spanone Oct 2017 #5
All talk ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #8
they own the congress lock, stock and barrel, so to speak.... spanone Oct 2017 #9
Water is wet. Fire is hot. nt Atticus Oct 2017 #2
The NRA thinks ahead. Turbineguy Oct 2017 #3
i finally figured out what might change things. a mass shooting like vegas at a BALL GAME. pansypoo53219 Oct 2017 #4
The bill is overreach. Straw Man Oct 2017 #6
Then they will get voted down. Aristus Oct 2017 #7

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. Who could have imagined the NRA coming out against a bill like this?
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:36 PM
Oct 2017

Bump stocks don't kill people. People using bump stocks kill people. So don't go blaming the bump stocks!

spanone

(135,833 posts)
5. October 5th....NYTimes: N.R.A. Supports New Rules on Bump Stock Devices
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:46 PM
Oct 2017
The National Rifle Association on Thursday endorsed tighter restrictions on devices that allow a rifle to fire bullets as fast as a machine gun — a rare, if small, step for a group that for years has vehemently opposed any new gun controls.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-shooting.html

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. All talk
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:11 PM
Oct 2017

What "restrictions" would they favor, a warning from the surgeon general? It seems to me like a diplomatic move to make them sound reasonable. They can still poo poo any new legislation.

Straw Man

(6,624 posts)
6. The bill is overreach.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:49 PM
Oct 2017

Full-auto firearms are not illegal at the federal level -- merely highly regulated. Google "NFA Class 3" for particulars.

The proposed bill would ban bump stocks while leaving full-auto firearms legal. That makes no sense, legally or practically. Bringing bump stocks under NFA regulation is the logical response.

Furthermore, the bill, in attempting to be all-inclusive, is vague and overly broad: it seeks to ban ...

... a trigger crank, a bump-fire device, or any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semi-automatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.

The bold text is where the problem lies. That could arguably include cleaning products and lubricants, ergonomic improvements to the grip and trigger itself, or even shooting gloves, since the practical rate of fire of a semi-auto firearm is determined by the speed with which one can pull the trigger.

The ATF could rule against bump stocks tomorrow and spare us all the angst of a bitter political fight. Would that be a bad thing?

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
7. Then they will get voted down.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:53 PM
Oct 2017

The GOpers who recently expressed the need for some regulatory presence, however weak and ineffective, will take their campaign contributions, vote 'no', and be very good boys...

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