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Tripper11

(4,338 posts) Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:46 PM Oct 2017

So is there any kind of counter move the Dems can do? re: Subsidies?

I've been trying find anything they are saying, but not having much luck.
Anyone else?

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So is there any kind of counter move the Dems can do? re: Subsidies? (Original Post) Tripper11 Oct 2017 OP

Take the House and Senate next November with a veto-proof majority. Vinca Oct 2017 #1

thanks.... Tripper11 Oct 2017 #2

Agree. Winning big in VA next month would also help. Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #4

AND NJ leftynyc Oct 2017 #9

Absolutely true. Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #10

Message of the Day on CNN: "Elections do have consequences." yallerdawg Oct 2017 #3

Its what a minority of rural and suburban voters wanted. maxsolomon Oct 2017 #7

Yes. They can stop bickering among themselves and MineralMan Oct 2017 #5

We need lawmakers to show outrage and define Trump as a killer of the poor and vunerable Doodley Oct 2017 #6

What does that mean? maxsolomon Oct 2017 #8

But thats how politics works SCantiGOP Oct 2017 #11

Here's the thing: it doesn't matter if you "define him as a killer" maxsolomon Oct 2017 #13

Hillary Clinton was about the most popular politician in America until Doodley Oct 2017 #12

If only we had our own partisan media pumping out propaganda for 30 years. maxsolomon Oct 2017 #14

It needs to be a campaign issue alarimer Oct 2017 #15

How can he just do this by executive order. onecaliberal Oct 2017 #16

Vinca

(50,271 posts)

1. Take the House and Senate next November with a veto-proof majority.

Reply to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:47 PM

Oct 2017

The subsidies won't be ending until 2019 so this can be stopped.

Tripper11

(4,338 posts)

2. thanks....

Reply to Vinca (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:52 PM

Oct 2017

Lots of info being tossed back and forth, details can get muddled with all the lies.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)

4. Agree. Winning big in VA next month would also help.

Reply to Vinca (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:52 PM

Oct 2017

Anything that gets GOP senators and reps nervous will help facilitate their eventual break with their lunatic President.

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)

9. AND NJ

Reply to Bleacher Creature (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:00 PM

Oct 2017

We need to win both those states HUGE next month.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)

10. Absolutely true.

Reply to leftynyc (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:14 PM

Oct 2017

I just mentioned VA because a win in the Senate would be a game changer. But obviously retaking the NJ governorship and holding the legislature are equally important.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

3. Message of the Day on CNN: "Elections do have consequences."

Reply to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:52 PM

Oct 2017

Repeal and Replace Obamacare.

End the Iran Nuclear Deal.

Either this is what the American people wanted - or there are just a lot of ignorant dumbasses out there.

Guess what?

The next election matters!

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)

7. Its what a minority of rural and suburban voters wanted.

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:58 PM

Oct 2017

Because they were conned.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)

5. Yes. They can stop bickering among themselves and

Reply to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:56 PM

Oct 2017

come together to take control of our federal government. That must begin in special elections and local elections this year and continue in 2018 and 2020. If we want change, we are going to have to work together to do what is needed to get that change.

If anyone's not interested in that coordinated effort, please feel free to step out of the way and let us get on with it.

Thanks!

Doodley

(9,091 posts)

6. We need lawmakers to show outrage and define Trump as a killer of the poor and vunerable

Reply to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:56 PM

Oct 2017

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)

8. What does that mean?

Reply to Doodley (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:59 PM

Oct 2017

"Define Trump as a killer"? That's not how laws work.

SCantiGOP

(13,870 posts)

11. But thats how politics works

Reply to maxsolomon (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:19 PM

Oct 2017

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)

13. Here's the thing: it doesn't matter if you "define him as a killer"

Reply to SCantiGOP (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:30 PM

Oct 2017

Cutting ACA subsidies is a slow-motion murder; it's abstract. No one's going to see anyone die screaming in a gutter as a direct result. Therefore, it's out of sight, out of mind of the flibberdigibbet "Independent Voter".

Dems can't call him a name that will change anyone's mind, or even stick there until Nov 2018. We've already gone full Godwin.

If you expect GOP Senators to do it, you're barking up the wrong tree.

Doodley

(9,091 posts)

12. Hillary Clinton was about the most popular politician in America until

Reply to maxsolomon (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:27 PM

Oct 2017

Trump and the GOP redefined her as somebody who was careless and untrustworthy. Democratic lawmakers should work together to define Trump as callous and without empathy for ordinary people - people in his own base will die because of his healthcare actions, and his action on gutting FEMA and environmental protections.