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malaise

(268,998 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 04:09 PM Oct 2017

The reason they hate Obama is that he shattered myths that were perpetuated for centuries

He demonstrated that we are all equal given the same opportunities.
To demonstrate how entitled they feel as white racists they (and their Russian friends) replaced him with a narcissistic, racist, woman-hating short fingered vulgarian (the ugliest American ever) who knows nothing about anything and thinks anything he says is an edict.

In his fucking crazy mind he knows more than every president in history and all of them combined. He also knows more than every expert in her or his field. Only he has the right to spread lies - any challenge to his lies is fake news.

Please Mr. Mueller, please LOCK UP THIS LUNATIC!!!

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The reason they hate Obama is that he shattered myths that were perpetuated for centuries (Original Post) malaise Oct 2017 OP
And Trump is living proof of the fallacy of white supremacy. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #1
Precisely malaise Oct 2017 #3
He's rich? But what about the 8 bankruptcies? And 2 failed casinos. DK504 Oct 2017 #26
Note the quotation marks? malaise Oct 2017 #30
so well said. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #71
Yep underpants Oct 2017 #4
And here we are not fooled Oct 2017 #46
As was Hitler proof of the fallacy of the "master race" of Germans. (BTW, I'm half German!) George II Oct 2017 #40
as was George W. - who was actually a warning of what might happen rurallib Oct 2017 #60
He did stuff 200 yrs of white presidents couldn't do, they really hate him for it Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #2
to read... We Were Eight Years in Power handmade34 Oct 2017 #5
I'll order them malaise Oct 2017 #6
K & R Thank you! KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #14
I'm reading through his essay in The Atlantic. ginnyinWI Oct 2017 #62
He broke all the stereotypes loyalsister Oct 2017 #7
Precisely malaise Oct 2017 #9
Also they hate him because he is so popular, and is a political genius who beat them fair and square Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #8
I have a childhood friend who told me to watch Obama at the Democratic Party Convention in 2004 malaise Oct 2017 #11
I watched handmade34 Oct 2017 #19
It was that obvious malaise Oct 2017 #23
When I saw him give the keynote address in 2004, I knew he was headed for the White House. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #20
I remember when some RWs put his name as Osama on the ballot malaise Oct 2017 #24
I am sure the GOP was thrilled when Obama won the nomination. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #28
I said the same think to my college age daughter. ginnyinWI Oct 2017 #64
I watched that live with my kids. I told them, "That man will be President panader0 Oct 2017 #44
I started following him from that day malaise Oct 2017 #45
I just happened to catch that speech -- fierywoman Oct 2017 #47
I called all my siblings and told them to turn on and watch malaise Oct 2017 #49
I wasn't watching, but had the TV on when Obama started to speak rurallib Oct 2017 #61
Yep malaise Oct 2017 #63
Obama is such a shining star, brilliant but down to earth, with tremendous talent and charisma. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #67
+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #10
By the same token, we should LOVE Trump (in a twisted way), because he's the other side of the coin. TrollBuster9090 Oct 2017 #12
Not really because he is not a good businessman malaise Oct 2017 #13
That's why I put "successful" in quotes. He was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth, TrollBuster9090 Oct 2017 #17
He sure fooled the media hacks malaise Oct 2017 #18
Sadly, I don't think the media hacks were fooled. They were just TrollBuster9090 Oct 2017 #21
Interesting take malaise Oct 2017 #25
Absolutely true not fooled Oct 2017 #48
Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2017 #52
THIS defacto7 Oct 2017 #15
As did HRC. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #16
Nailed it! suffragette Oct 2017 #22
Anybody that makes the GOP look bad they will hate rock Oct 2017 #27
Obama didn't have 1% of the opportunities that Trump had yet he achieved far more than Trump Yavin4 Oct 2017 #29
+1,000 malaise Oct 2017 #31
I think, on this one topic, Dump tells himself the truth. MLAA Oct 2017 #32
President Obama exemplified all the qualities that some white people guillaumeb Oct 2017 #33
Not specific but exclusive to white people. George II Oct 2017 #35
And so they apparently feel. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #38
+1,000 malaise Oct 2017 #36
Agreed. Trump is the very definition of uncouth. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #39
Not fugging one malaise Oct 2017 #43
I think many on the right, and unfortunately those on the not so right, and even on the left.... George II Oct 2017 #34
Yep malaise Oct 2017 #41
I know people here in Illinois who actually voted for that idiot carpetbagger Allen Keyes greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #59
Obama screws up their ugly meme about Democrats holding blacks down... VOX Oct 2017 #37
Great post malaise Oct 2017 #42
But that RW slander not fooled Oct 2017 #50
Aye, there's the rub. The RW blowhard media conglomerate has made sure that there Nay Oct 2017 #69
He's was much more articulate, eloquent and intelligent, than any the GOP has EVER put forth. C Moon Oct 2017 #51
By a distance malaise Oct 2017 #53
Obama did not prove himself to be merely the equal of any white person. Nonhlanhla Oct 2017 #54
I take your meaning but Obama zentrum Oct 2017 #55
I know but this is about their view that malaise Oct 2017 #56
Yes, equality is the biggest zentrum Oct 2017 #57
+1,000 malaise Oct 2017 #58
exactly why Donnie is now trying to erase him. ginnyinWI Oct 2017 #66
That was the basis of their claims treestar Oct 2017 #65
K&R UCmeNdc Oct 2017 #68
I disagree. They hate(d) him purely because of the color of his skin. eggplant Oct 2017 #70

DK504

(3,847 posts)
26. He's rich? But what about the 8 bankruptcies? And 2 failed casinos.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:52 PM
Oct 2017

Is this why he and his grifter spawn are fleecing the tax payers? So he can make enough for either the lawyers or disappear to another country.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
30. Note the quotation marks?
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:57 PM
Oct 2017

Rich my ass - He's a snake oil salesman - it's why he and the crazy theocratic evangelists get along so well.
They lie, make up crap, and rob you of your hard-earned money and of course they believe in nothing but money and a good life as a parasite.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
71. so well said.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:33 PM
Oct 2017

The fundaMENTAList kkkristians are primed for believing lies.
They claim they believe in some "god", but you're right💯%--they love his lying. So familiar.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
46. And here we are
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:43 PM
Oct 2017

a mere 8 years later, with another dysfunctional puke idiot president. This one is even more toxic and evil, though (never thought I would be saying that). chumpy makes chimpy look like Lincoln.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
60. as was George W. - who was actually a warning of what might happen
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:29 AM
Oct 2017

if Trump were to be elected.

Obama will forever be a great president sandwiched between the two worst presidents ever.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
5. to read... We Were Eight Years in Power
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oct 2017

(Obama not so much "demonstrated that we are all equal..." as much as he demonstrated that he a Black man is far superior to many a White man) I ache for someone like him to be our President again

Reviews
“Ta-Nehisi Coates has published a collection of the major magazine essays he wrote throughout the Obama years. . . . But Coates adds an unexpected element that renders We Were Eight Years in Power both new and revealing. Interspersed among the essays are introductory personal reflections. . . . Together, these introspections are the inside story of a writer at work, with all the fears, insecurities, influences, insights and blind spots that the craft demands. . . . I would have continued reading Coates during a Hillary Clinton administration, hoping in particular that he’d finally write the great Civil War history already scattered throughout his work. Yet reading him now feels more urgent, with the bar set higher.”—Carlos Lozada, The Washington Post

“Coates’s collection of his essays from the past decade examine the recurrence of certain themes in the black community, the need for uplift and self-reliance, the debate between liberals and conservatives about the right approach to racism, and the virulent reaction in some quarters to any signs of racial progress. . . . As he charts social changes, Coates also offers a fascinating look at his own transformation as a black man and a writer. Before each essay, Coates provides context in light of recent political developments. . . . Coates’s always sharp commentary is particularly insightful as each day brings a new upset to the cultural and political landscape laid during the term of the nation’s first black president. . . . Coates is a crucial voice in the public discussion of race and equality, and readers will be eager for his take on where we stand now and why.” —Booklist (starred review)
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
62. I'm reading through his essay in The Atlantic.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:46 AM
Oct 2017

It is teaching me so much--like a university lecture. I may get the book, too.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. He broke all the stereotypes
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:07 PM
Oct 2017

He's smarter and better educated than most of us, uses language well, isn't a deadbeat dad, not a gang banger, and hasn't spent time in prison or been a drug dealer.

They were wrong all along and had to question their superiority.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
9. Precisely
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:20 PM
Oct 2017

but the leader of the white supremacists had to create a new myth because Obama broke that one into smithereens. So it came down to either he's not American or white superiority is dead. And the promoters of institutional media - including M$Greedia - went along for the ride.

Now they're trying to reintroduce all the racist laws that kept minorities down.

This is about institutional racism No more Obamas must be allowed.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
8. Also they hate him because he is so popular, and is a political genius who beat them fair and square
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:14 PM
Oct 2017

at their own crooked game. And Obama worked for the people, not the 1%.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
11. I have a childhood friend who told me to watch Obama at the Democratic Party Convention in 2004
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:24 PM
Oct 2017

He told me then that Obama would be the winning Democratic Party candidate in 2008.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
19. I watched
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:43 PM
Oct 2017

and recorded his speech in 2004... I was teaching at a small private school at that time... the next day I went in with the recording and
required all to watch and told them to take note!! ...I knew then

malaise

(268,998 posts)
23. It was that obvious
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:47 PM
Oct 2017

What an experience for your class. Funny I also mentioned him to my students. A few watched on their own.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
20. When I saw him give the keynote address in 2004, I knew he was headed for the White House.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:43 PM
Oct 2017

My husband said I was crazy, a non-white with a funny name would never make it in national politics. I told him he was wrong, Obama would be president one day.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
28. I am sure the GOP was thrilled when Obama won the nomination.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:53 PM
Oct 2017

They assumed the US was too racist to elect a non-white candidate as president. And they could paint him as a Muslim too.

They failed to realize that Obama was a political genius and could beat them honestly at their own crooked game. And his message of hope, integrity and focus on the people overcame any hesitation people may have had. Except for the hard core racists.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
64. I said the same think to my college age daughter.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:48 AM
Oct 2017

She was very impressed with me when it came true!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
44. I watched that live with my kids. I told them, "That man will be President
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:33 PM
Oct 2017

someday." I didn't think it would be so quick though......

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
47. I just happened to catch that speech --
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:45 PM
Oct 2017

-- he took my breath away. I might have cried. I fervently wished he could be president of the United States.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
61. I wasn't watching, but had the TV on when Obama started to speak
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:32 AM
Oct 2017

I stopped what I was doing and called my wife in and told her to listen.
When he was done I looked at her and said - "I think we just saw the future president."

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
67. Obama is such a shining star, brilliant but down to earth, with tremendous talent and charisma.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:53 AM
Oct 2017

Many of us saw it right away.

He was able to accomplish a great deal despite total GOP harassment and blocking of everything he tried to do.
And some congressional Democrats fought Obama as well. I wonder what he could have accomplished
if people had cooperated with him.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
12. By the same token, we should LOVE Trump (in a twisted way), because he's the other side of the coin.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:28 PM
Oct 2017

HE is shattering all the conservative myths about the middle aged conservative white businessman being some kind of a superman. Especially the businessman part. To a Party that takes it for granted that businessmen could EASILY run government (Trump said so many times. Running a business is hard, running government is easy.) Thus a 'successful' businessman should be able to run government easily... People in the private sector are always smarter, more creative, and more moral than people in the public sector.

Trump USED all those myths to get elected, and how he's exploding them all.

We're currently seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance, as they struggle to hang on to those myths. "The DEEP STATE isn't letting Trump do what he wants to do..." But eventually they'll have no choice but to admit to themselves that those myths are false, and they've been hoodwinked by carefully crafted stereotypes.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
17. That's why I put "successful" in quotes. He was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth,
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:37 PM
Oct 2017

and managed to tread water for most of his 'career' following in his father's footsteps. But mostly he's just proven that somebody who was born wealthy, and was set up in business by his father, can at least FOOL people into thinking he's successful, despite being a complete idiot. An example of white, male privilege.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
18. He sure fooled the media hacks
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:40 PM
Oct 2017

and fellow racists who love white, male privilege including the right to violate women at will.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
21. Sadly, I don't think the media hacks were fooled. They were just
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:45 PM
Oct 2017

They were just scared shitless by the thought of somebody accusing them of having a 'liberal bias' if they didn't continuously bash Clinton, and continuously give Trump free airtime...phone-in interviews, free passes on his idiotic comments etc.

As Bill Maher said, "In this country, all you have to do as call a politician 'liberal,' and he'll put on an orange vest and run off to the woods to kill animals."

rock

(13,218 posts)
27. Anybody that makes the GOP look bad they will hate
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:53 PM
Oct 2017

And it gets easier every day to make them look bad.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
29. Obama didn't have 1% of the opportunities that Trump had yet he achieved far more than Trump
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:56 PM
Oct 2017

This is why you need a strong progressive tax system so that talented individuals can compete for the best in America.

MLAA

(17,289 posts)
32. I think, on this one topic, Dump tells himself the truth.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:06 PM
Oct 2017

Why would the impotent ignoramous go after beloved President Obama's legacy so hard ....unless deep down he knew how inadequate he was when compared to him?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
33. President Obama exemplified all the qualities that some white people
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:09 PM
Oct 2017

insist are specific to white people.

Trump can never be any of these things that they insist are white qualities.

So Trump supporters are angry at President Obama for being himself.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
36. +1,000
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:13 PM
Oct 2017

And they are so angry that they and their Russian friends chose the definition of uncouth to replace him.
And there are people in important institutions telling us to accept the fact that he is diffferent.

Never have I seen such an inversion of reality.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
39. Agreed. Trump is the very definition of uncouth.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:16 PM
Oct 2017

Arrogant, ignorant, uncaring.
Unlike Hillary Clinton, I can find no redeeming qualities in him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. I think many on the right, and unfortunately those on the not so right, and even on the left....
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:12 PM
Oct 2017

....considered him "uppity" and didn't know his place.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,735 posts)
59. I know people here in Illinois who actually voted for that idiot carpetbagger Allen Keyes
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:06 PM
Oct 2017

rather than for that upstart Barack Obama in the 2004 senate race. It's not as if he was our first African-American senator; Carol Moseley Braun holds that title.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
37. Obama screws up their ugly meme about Democrats holding blacks down...
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:14 PM
Oct 2017

and making them dependent on the government, blah, blah, blah, the customary horseshit.

Obama was our sharpest, savviest, and classiest president since JFK. Imagine what Obama could have been accomplished with a non-partisan Congress.

The right wing long ago figured out that it doesn’t need to arrange any assassinations, they’re too messy and risky. So they take out Democratic presidents (or candidates) by slapping together something (FALSE or misrepresented) with which to handcuff and sideline that person. Bill Clinton: Monica Lewinsky and alleged body counts; Obama: Birth certificate, ties to terrorism, closet Muslim; Hillary: On her deathbed, BENGHAZI, body counts, child prostitution and ready to start WWIII.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
50. But that RW slander
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:48 PM
Oct 2017

only works if the U.S. has enough ignorant racists and idiots.

Oh, wait....uh oh

Nay

(12,051 posts)
69. Aye, there's the rub. The RW blowhard media conglomerate has made sure that there
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:42 PM
Oct 2017

are plenty of racists and idiots in the US.

It's the problem with the human race -- cognitively and emotionally flawed when it comes to responding rationally rather than with tribal emotions.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
51. He's was much more articulate, eloquent and intelligent, than any the GOP has EVER put forth.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:51 PM
Oct 2017

Trump, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Reagan...as well as the bunch of GOP clowns who have been running for the past 10 years.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
53. By a distance
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:03 PM
Oct 2017

It was comical watching Palin aka Ladyblahblah trying to diss Obama. It was chalk to cheese.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
54. Obama did not prove himself to be merely the equal of any white person.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:05 PM
Oct 2017

He in fact proved himself to be superior to most (white) people. He is of superior intelligence and integrity, and that is what they can't stand.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
55. I take your meaning but Obama
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:11 PM
Oct 2017

...didn't just show that we're all equal. He showed that some black people can actually be higher caliber than some whites. O was clearly superior to George Bush---O was smarter, smoother, better spoken, and saved the economy from the 2008 collapse that Bush put us in.

He was obviously a better leader and President than Bush --a step beyond "equality".

malaise

(268,998 posts)
56. I know but this is about their view that
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:14 PM
Oct 2017

we are not equal and we will never be equal. Obama shattered that myth and then some.

Glad you see my meaning

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
57. Yes, equality is the biggest
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:52 PM
Oct 2017

...threat of all to them and especially to their ideology.

(But T really deeply knows that Obama is superior. T is secretly impressed and insanely jealous of Obama--but that's a separate issue, I know.)

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
66. exactly why Donnie is now trying to erase him.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:51 AM
Oct 2017

Obama destroys their worldview about white supremacy.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
65. That was the basis of their claims
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:50 AM
Oct 2017

that he was not qualified. They knew he was born in the US but made up birtherism to substitute for their real feelings that a black man is just not qualified.

That he got elected stunned them, since they believed that it was impossible. This shows when they called him an "affirmative action president" as if the people who voted for him were doing it as a group for that reason. They couldn't believe it was possible for a voting majority to think he would make a good President.

This is why they pretend to cast doubts on his education, too, making wild claims that he got onto Harvard Law Review by "affirmative action" (the Law Review consists of the top of the class, so making that it inconsistent with being admitted to Harvard due to "affirmative action.&quot

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
70. I disagree. They hate(d) him purely because of the color of his skin.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:57 PM
Oct 2017

They hated him while he was a candidate, they hated him when he got elected, and they hated him while he executed the office with dignity and honor. They hate(d) his family because of the color of their skin, too.

They hated him before any of his actions.

They now push back against his accomplishments because they hate(d) his color. If he had been white as snow, they wouldn't be trying so hard to push back *everything* he did.

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