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jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:14 AM Oct 2017

"It will hurt his voters"...not if they are filthy rich..that is WHO voted Trump in.


It always bothers me when someone posts how Trump's policies will hurt his poor dumb voters....this is not the entire picture...he got voted in by the rich Republicans......Of the one in three Americans who earn less than $50,000 a year, a majority voted for Clinton. A majority of those who earn more backed Trump ..It's time to bust the myth: Most Trump voters were not working class ...https://www.washingtonpost.com/

I see it locally here in Stevens Point WI...Trump voters are the rich ones where I live...especially the old rich folks who would never ever vote DEM.
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"It will hurt his voters"...not if they are filthy rich..that is WHO voted Trump in. (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 OP
I agree, until he goes after Medicare. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #1
You're right, on average they are richer than us. But ... dawg Oct 2017 #2
Not in this state. 52 counties where average income is below $40K went sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #3
+++++one hundred percent agree! lunasun Oct 2017 #4
The rich are a very small demographic. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #5
Washington Post says otherwise jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 #6
You need to factor in the Electoral College rufus dog Oct 2017 #11
The wealthy are about 1% of the country. fescuerescue Oct 2017 #15
Yes, I agree. The problem is that a lot of people who make a decent income think smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #17
More than $50,000/yr includes a lot of middle class and working class voters loyalsister Oct 2017 #7
thanks for the great source !! You... jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 #8
Maybe in your town loyalsister Oct 2017 #10
I am a one person household and I live in a large, expensive city. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #18
Right so not a lot of income aint filthy rich. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #16
That's impossible. Captain Stern Oct 2017 #9
The 20 wealthiest individuals in the US have more combined wealth than 50% of the population. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #13
Of those who make less than $50,000, Trump got more than 40% of the vote. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #12
What are you defining at "filthy rich"? Takket Oct 2017 #14
Most people I know who voted for Trump are uneducated, white, working class people. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #19

mountain grammy

(26,658 posts)
1. I agree, until he goes after Medicare.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:19 AM
Oct 2017

Then, seniors who are comfortably retired, mostly thanks to Medicare, and supported the moron (The Villages and others) will have the rug pulled out from under them and it'll be too late.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
2. You're right, on average they are richer than us. But ...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:22 AM
Oct 2017

most of them are not so rich that they won't also be harmed by these policies.

sinkingfeeling

(51,479 posts)
3. Not in this state. 52 counties where average income is below $40K went
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

to the F'ing Moron and 5 want to Clinton. And this is the state that elected Bill govenor!

Voltaire2

(13,213 posts)
5. The rich are a very small demographic.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:39 AM
Oct 2017

They can’t vote anybody into office. Instead they use their wealth to bamboozle the rest of us to vote against our own self interest.

Trump was elected by poor and middle class white voters.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
11. You need to factor in the Electoral College
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

So Clinton won the election by 3 + million. But tRump won fairly easily be winning some key states and within those states, some key demographics.


This results at a national level have one outcome, while state specific numbers turn in a different result.

One might conclude that the targeted marketing had a big impact.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
15. The wealthy are about 1% of the country.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:01 PM
Oct 2017

That's why we call them the 1% ers. 1 in 100.

Now we want to say that the wealthy are 47% of the country. I guess we can call them the 47%'ers. But I don't think that is too catchy.

But to your point and the others point, it all comes down to how we define wealthy. If we want to call people who are above the median wealthy, we can do that, but don't think anyone will give us much credit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. Yes, I agree. The problem is that a lot of people who make a decent income think
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:06 PM
Oct 2017

they are in the 1% but they are not even close. In fact, a lot of those people are a few paychecks away from bankruptcy. I know a few of them and while they pull in decent money they are in debt up to their eyeballs, yet they live way beyond their means.

These are Trump's "wealthy" middle/upper middle class voters. They really aren't that wealthy, but they are aspirational. I don't consider someone truly wealthy unless they can live of the income of their investments.

If they have to work for a living, they aren't wealthy. But so many of those people identify with the 1% who are screwing them over. These people need their jobs for health care, they need their paychecks. They will be in for a world of hurt once it all comes crashing down on them

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. More than $50,000/yr includes a lot of middle class and working class voters
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:09 PM
Oct 2017

That is not a huge income in a lot of places.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. Maybe in your town
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:56 PM
Oct 2017

The OP assumes a broader generalization.

The income it takes to be middle income varies by household size, with smaller households requiring less to support the same lifestyle as larger households. Thus, a one-person household needed only $24,000 to $72,000 to be middle income in 2014. But a five-person household had to have an income ranging from $54,000 to $161,000 to be considered middle income.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/05/11/americas-shrinking-middle-class-a-close-look-at-changes-within-metropolitan-areas/

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. I am a one person household and I live in a large, expensive city.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:20 PM
Oct 2017

I make quite a bit more than what it takes to be middle income but not six figures and I am literally scraping by. Most of my income goes to rent (I live in a studio in the city) and a massive student loan. After food, public transportation, medication, dry cleaning and utility bills I have almost NO disposable income.

If I need clothes, shoes etc. I often have to ask my dad to help me out and I am fortunate that he is happy to do so - mostly because he doesn't want me to look like a slob. I can't imagine how hard it must be for a family to live on what I make or less to get by. Everything is just so expensive, particularly housing and it only seems to get worse. I am taking out a 401k loan just to get caught up because everything is falling apart and there is so much I need that I haven't been able to afford.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
9. That's impossible.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:47 PM
Oct 2017

One of the biggest problems our country faces is that a huge percentage of our income/wealth/resources are owned by a very small percentage of our people.

The orange nutbag won the electoral college and got 47% of the popular vote.

If 47% of the people in this country are "filthy rich", then this country isn't really in all that bad of shape.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. The 20 wealthiest individuals in the US have more combined wealth than 50% of the population.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:42 PM
Oct 2017

The divide is truly staggering.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. Of those who make less than $50,000, Trump got more than 40% of the vote.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:41 PM
Oct 2017

That's a lot of people. Among those who make between 50k and 99.9k, Trump got 50% of the vote. Trump barely beat Clinton among those who make 100k or more per year.

Race was, as usual, the single biggest factor.

Republicans who get hurt by Republican policies just blame Democrats, while taking comfort in the knowledge that persons of color are hurt worse.

Takket

(21,640 posts)
14. What are you defining at "filthy rich"?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:52 PM
Oct 2017

The top 10% of the country? Because that only includes 10% of the population. Because math...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Most people I know who voted for Trump are uneducated, white, working class people.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 03:24 PM
Oct 2017

However I live in a very blue city so most of the well off, educated people here vote for democrats. You can literally see it by looking at district maps. It's also rural, the western part of the state is very red, while the areas around Boston, even the very wealthy areas, go blue.

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