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...Vienna sausages, a Nutrigrain bar & f'n Skittles. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2017 OP
Is this for real? Kleveland Oct 2017 #1
There is not enough nutrition in that package for more MineralMan Oct 2017 #7
Mechanically separated chicken is put in chicken nuggets and patties. Igel Oct 2017 #10
The "sausage" does seem pretty gross. Kleveland Oct 2017 #12
I've been to the Spam Museum here in Minnesota. MineralMan Oct 2017 #14
I would love to visit that museum! Kleveland Oct 2017 #16
They have a brand new museum, which I have not seen. MineralMan Oct 2017 #18
That's what I call Trump's tweets - SPAM. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #48
I detest Vienna sausages. Yuck! MineralMan Oct 2017 #2
they make great pill pockets for dogs Mosby Oct 2017 #39
We use hot dog pieces for that. I can eat hot dogs. MineralMan Oct 2017 #40
Leftovers from a tradeshow... LakeVermilion Oct 2017 #3
No rice? No platanos? What morons. Tatiana Oct 2017 #4
One of the problems is cooking. MineralMan Oct 2017 #41
There are community kitchens all over the island where people have volunteered to cook for hundreds. Tatiana Oct 2017 #42
The water is contaminated in many areas jberryhill Oct 2017 #56
Are those the meals that are given one meal per family? csziggy Oct 2017 #5
You'd think they could give them MREs. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #6
Exactly. MineralMan Oct 2017 #8
The Army always seems to have enough surplus Kittycow Oct 2017 #9
That thought had occured to me. Kleveland Oct 2017 #13
Some people in San Juan did get MREs. Tatiana Oct 2017 #17
That makes waaayyyyy to much sense. DK504 Oct 2017 #22
But then how'd the donors... GeorgeGist Oct 2017 #50
What, no ketchup? (ala' Ronald Reagan's school lunch program) Kittycow Oct 2017 #11
K&R jpak Oct 2017 #15
be careful what you wish for i am sure jim bakker would love a big fema contract for his slop bucket dembotoz Oct 2017 #19
Maybe they can wring that shit out and get a few drops of water. LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #20
That's nauseating. I thought they were handing out MREs. Not gourmet food, but Vinca Oct 2017 #21
Breakfast, lunch, and dinner! WinkyDink Oct 2017 #23
Why the hell did they include a spoon? To eat the nutrigrain bar? japple Oct 2017 #24
Did FEMA actually contract with a company to put together those vacuum packs? procon Oct 2017 #25
For those of us (not currently) in a disaster zone snort Oct 2017 #26
Definitely Flaleftist Oct 2017 #30
If you look at the closeups of the Vienna Sausage can, Stonepounder Oct 2017 #27
They're fine cold. Codeine Oct 2017 #57
There is more nutrition in half a can of re-fried beans. CCExile Oct 2017 #28
I wouldn't write "f'n Skittles" in the title of an OP. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2017 #29
my first reaction also... bluecollar2 Oct 2017 #43
Fucking Skittles equals Trayvon Martin... Sick Fucks!!! winstars Oct 2017 #31
Deafie here. What does he say about the FEMA "meals"? nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #32
3 weeks later and this is the best they can do? Flaleftist Oct 2017 #33
I think goal is to kill everyone or chase them off the land. Demtexan Oct 2017 #46
disgraceful YOHABLO Oct 2017 #34
That is disgusting and... 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #35
Disgusting! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #36
Who's getting rich off this? NBachers Oct 2017 #37
Yeah. Demtexan Oct 2017 #45
Some kind of "Taste the Rainbow" policy? Beartracks Oct 2017 #38
Wow is that normal? treestar Oct 2017 #44
That packet is highly symbolic of Trump's proposed budget! KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #47
How about Rice and Beans ? JI7 Oct 2017 #49
Every f**king chef and nutritionist would have suggested rice&beans. DetlefK Oct 2017 #51
Vienna sausage is like 98% fat. doc03 Oct 2017 #52
I guess the GREEN SKITTLES qualifies yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #53
Skittles are trash, zero nutritional value, maybe it is a treat Not Ruth Oct 2017 #54
Same "box lunch" type stuff the Army has been using for years Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #55

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
1. Is this for real?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:54 AM
Oct 2017

If so, I am surprised it is that good....

Pretty much sugar and fat, with a smattering of carbs.

(I guess it is not so far away from spam and chocolate bars!)



MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
7. There is not enough nutrition in that package for more
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:07 AM
Oct 2017

than an after-school snack for a child. The can of Vienna Sausages, made from chicken scraps scraped off the bones, has only 170 calories, and 130 of those calories are from fat.

"Mechanically separated chicken" is something you put in pet food, not human food. This is an insult to the Puerto Ricans. Yuck!

Igel

(35,362 posts)
10. Mechanically separated chicken is put in chicken nuggets and patties.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:28 AM
Oct 2017

And in those chubs of chicken meat you can sometimes see in stores. (Mechanically separated beef, pork, and turkey are much more common.)

The only reason chicken nuggets aren't a staple in school cafeterias these days is their fat content. The problem, though, isn't their fat content but the rest of the American diet.

In a system where getting enough calories is an issue, "high-calorie food", typically meaning high-fat food, has a positive connotation. In Russian, "vysokokaloriinost'" or "high-caloricity" was something you looked for in food for decades. You'd ask, "Is this high-calorie" and smile as you grabbed it, thinking, "Score!" It was only in the '90s as the economy plummeted towards the basement in the de-facto improvement over the glorious Soviet economy of the '80s that "high-fat" became westernly tinged with the taint of undesirability. Take away the high-calorie foods and all that fat and you'd wind up with too few calories consumed per day.

Which brings us back to Puerto Rico where people in some areas aren't getting enough calories.

As for the appropriateness, yes, it's inappropriate in numerous ways. But you go to Walmart and say, "Hi, I'd like 6 million MREs for delivery tonight, and make that a standing order. They need to be able to withstand being in cargo holds and in warehouses, unrefrigerated, for up to 3 weeks in high-humidity conditions, sealed so if they're exposed to moisture they won't be ruined, able to withstand temperatures from near freezing to at least 120 degrees, and be able to withstand being dropped 150 feet without being ruined. If you could have individual, self-warming servings of lamb vindaloo with basmati on Tuesdays, that would be great, arroz con pollo on Sunday, and for variety how about some patacon on Saturday--keep the tostones separate from the filling, otherwise they get soggy. Don't forget the side salads. And keep the price really low."

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
12. The "sausage" does seem pretty gross.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:11 PM
Oct 2017

Actually makes Spam look pretty good!

Hormel claims that it is made from only six ingredients: pork shoulder, ham, salt, water, potato starch, sugar and sodium nitrate.

No awful chemicals with names you cannot pronounce or spell.

Sodium Nitrate (Salt Peter) is in just about all processed meat products.

Not saying that it is health food, just an observation!

http://www.spam.com/varieties

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
14. I've been to the Spam Museum here in Minnesota.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:18 PM
Oct 2017

I don't care for the taste of Spam, but it's not particularly unhealthful, really. As you point out, the ingredients are simple. Sodium nitrate is a common ingredient in processed meat products, of course. It helps to keep the botulism bacteria from growing. I try to avoid it, though, whenever possible, and more and more sausage products are available now without any of it. Good refrigeration makes that possible these days.

Canned Vienna sausages have a flavor and consistency that makes me gag. I cannot eat that stuff. My body tries to reject it. So, I listen to its reaction.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
16. I would love to visit that museum!
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:26 PM
Oct 2017

Theu have some unique gifts as well.

One of my favorites are the flip flops that leave a Spam impression in the sand!



They would be perfect on a Hawaiian beach!

FWIIW, I believe that I posted a recipe for Pg Newtons somewhere in the baking/cooking area.

A big hit a parties oddly enough.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
18. They have a brand new museum, which I have not seen.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:38 PM
Oct 2017

The old one was interesting looking. I'm not sure about the new one. But, yes, they have tons of Spam merchandise, which you can also buy online, of course.

Oddly enough, you couldn't get anything made of Spam to eat at the old museum. You had to cross the street and get your Spamburger at a restaurant there. I don't know if that's still the same now.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
2. I detest Vienna sausages. Yuck!
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:55 AM
Oct 2017

Can't eat them. Won't eat them. They're not even food, as far as I'm concerned.

Mosby

(16,381 posts)
39. they make great pill pockets for dogs
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:48 PM
Oct 2017

Kind of a last resort though, a scoop of pumpkin is much healthier but doesn't work well with tramadol once my dog figures it out. The sausage is foolproof, he just can't resist.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
40. We use hot dog pieces for that. I can eat hot dogs.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:51 PM
Oct 2017

Good quality ones, anyhow. It does help get the pills into the dog. Cats, on the other hand...

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
4. No rice? No platanos? What morons.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:58 AM
Oct 2017

How much of this can we take? Will it really come to having a national March on Washington to demand the traitorous Republicans do their Constitutional duty?

Do we need to break our our pots and pans?

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
41. One of the problems is cooking.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:56 PM
Oct 2017

For much of the area, it would have to be done on open fires. That does limit people's ability to deal with rice and dried beans, which are a staple of the Puerto Rican diet. A large percentage of homes are uninhabitable right now.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
42. There are community kitchens all over the island where people have volunteered to cook for hundreds.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:03 PM
Oct 2017

These items can be used.

I watched my grandmother cook arroz y pollo (chicken & rice) over an open fire many times as a young girl. It can be done and in large quantity.

There is no respect on the part of this administration for the Puerto Rican people at all. Trump clearly hates brown people.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
5. Are those the meals that are given one meal per family?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:00 AM
Oct 2017

Not one per family member - just one for an entire family?

First off, there is little of nutritious value in that entire package, though there might be enough calories to keep one person going for one day. But for entire fucking families? And a family does not even get one of those per day. They are lucky if the teams get to their communities once every three or four days.

I'd love to see Dolt45's family live on two or at most three packs for a week. They'd be chewing each other's arms off by the third day!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,892 posts)
6. You'd think they could give them MREs.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:06 AM
Oct 2017

Those are not particularly delicious but they pack a lot of calories and nutrition into them. The Army must have tons of them - but FEMA is handing out junk food.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
9. The Army always seems to have enough surplus
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 11:26 AM
Oct 2017

for them to end up on eBay and other outlets.

The private companies that manufacture MREs for preppers and outdoor enthusiasts could also step up and donate a ton (perhaps literally) for a tax write-off, if for no other reason.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
13. That thought had occured to me.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:14 PM
Oct 2017

I mean, surely they have some sort of time based product rotation requirements as well that would make MRE's a very logical choice.

I understand that a lot of the items are actually fairly tasty, all things considered.

As is said, an Army travels on its stomach!

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
17. Some people in San Juan did get MREs.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:37 PM
Oct 2017

I'm not sure where they came from, but now they are relying on the food donations from private organizations like Operation Blessing, which contain real food of nutritional value.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
22. That makes waaayyyyy to much sense.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:51 PM
Oct 2017

It's not like they don't have enough MRE's for the next 50 years, but that would go against the TIC's idea; kill them all.

dembotoz

(16,860 posts)
19. be careful what you wish for i am sure jim bakker would love a big fema contract for his slop bucket
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:41 PM
Oct 2017

pretty pathetic when the best you can say is at least its not worse

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
21. That's nauseating. I thought they were handing out MREs. Not gourmet food, but
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:50 PM
Oct 2017

at least having enough nutrition to sustain a soldier.

procon

(15,805 posts)
25. Did FEMA actually contract with a company to put together those vacuum packs?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:56 PM
Oct 2017

If so, then FEMA specified either the contents or the price limits and that's the best they could do? Even meals that are shipped to third world refugee camps are more nutritious. If this isn't discrimination, look at what other refugee get:





This is what Syrian refugees get.

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FEMA distributed these meals during Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita.

The Humanitarian Daily Ration (HDR) is a ready-to-eat meal similar to MREs, but at approximately one-fifth of the cost. The packages are designed to be able to survive being air-dropped, without a parachute. A single HDR is designed to provide a full day's sustenance with about 2200 calories, and they contain no animal products or by-products so as to be acceptable to a wide range of consumers with religious and dietary restrictions.

snort

(2,334 posts)
26. For those of us (not currently) in a disaster zone
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

it might be a good idea to start accumulating a few months supply of food and water.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
30. Definitely
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017

I could probably stretch my pantry for 3 months if needed. Given the shelf life of canned goods and dry rice, beans and pasta. There really isn't a reason not to if you have the space and can afford it. I'm in central Florida and the stores got wiped before Irma and took a while to get back to normal. I'd hate to see what would happen if a worse disaster happened. It's also a good idea to have a backup supply of toilet paper and paper towels. They were empty on the shelves for a while as well. There are springs nearby that I could go to get water. Knowing the nearest source to get fresh water is also a good idea.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
27. If you look at the closeups of the Vienna Sausage can,
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:06 PM
Oct 2017

It says to microwave them. How the hell are you going to microwave something if you don't have any power??!!??

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
57. They're fine cold.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 12:35 PM
Oct 2017

Which is to say they're cooked and edible without need for heating, but seriously nasty regardless.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,374 posts)
29. I wouldn't write "f'n Skittles" in the title of an OP.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:15 PM
Oct 2017

But that's just me. I don't need one more ass-kicking, scheduled or not.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
33. 3 weeks later and this is the best they can do?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:21 PM
Oct 2017

This is some combination of malice and incompetence. I suspect mostly malice.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
46. I think goal is to kill everyone or chase them off the land.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 04:23 AM
Oct 2017

MRE's should be the least given out.

I was at the convention center in Houston to pick up a friend and FEMA was doing a lot more.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
36. Disgusting!
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

What would be more nutritious and very economical would be rice, beans, vegetables, a little meat, some condiments, etc. Don't tell me we can't afford that.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
45. Yeah.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 04:19 AM
Oct 2017

In Houston they were handing out MREs at convention center.

No somethings smells.

FEMA money is going somewheres.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
38. Some kind of "Taste the Rainbow" policy?
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 01:48 PM
Oct 2017

Skittles?? Hey, don't forget to add a vegetable: a ketchup packet.

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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
51. Every f**king chef and nutritionist would have suggested rice&beans.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:05 AM
Oct 2017

My guess is that FEMA has some sort of contract with the companies who provide the food for these meals.

You can't go back to a grains&beans diet that has worked for millennia when there's money to be made!!!

- 200g grains
- 200g beans
- a sugary snack-bar with minerals and vitamins

A full day's food for $2 or less.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
54. Skittles are trash, zero nutritional value, maybe it is a treat
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:29 AM
Oct 2017

3 Nutrigrain bars would have been a better choice, and I would have offered canned sardines for sausages, both are perfectly edible out of the can imo,

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
55. Same "box lunch" type stuff the Army has been using for years
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:37 AM
Oct 2017

They use these all the time instead of MRE's to save money because they are 1/3 the cost. Especially common on the Reserve side.

For example if I was planning an exercise that had troops traveling by bus all day and I asked for MRE's they would give us these instead.

FEMA typically doesn't keep MREs on hand, although a lot of states do. I know NC and SC both keep hundreds of thousands of MRE's on hand for disaster response. FEMA tends to do last minute buys of whatever is available right then and there and disburses them, with the concept being that whatever the state has on hand is used to cover the need until FEMA gets in and starts distribution of what they are procuring.

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