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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:30 AM Oct 2017

The White House just released a report saying that slashing the corporate tax rate would boost $4000

The White House just released a report saying that slashing the corporate tax rate would boost the typical family’s take-home pay by $4,000 per year.


More Bullshit!!!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-credibility-problem-tax-reform-200607509.html

As President Trump and his fellow Republicans roll out their big tax-reform plan, the biggest battles are likely to be over who stands to benefit the most. The framework for tax reform the Trump administration, published in September, called for simplifying the rate structure for individuals, killing the estate tax, lowering taxes on small businesses and slashing the corporate rate from 35% to 20%. The Tax Policy Center (TPC) found that the plan heavily favored the rich. It would boost the after-tax income of the top 1% by 8.5% on average, while the bottom 95% would enjoy just a 1.2% hike in take-home pay, at best.

The White House trashed the TPC analysis for filling in details the White House hasn’t yet provided. And it’s possible the final Trump plan will be kinder to the middle class than the TPC findings suggest. But the factual details of the plan, whenever they arrive, may end up being less important than the impression Americans have of the plan, which will determine the enthusiasm with which members of Congress support tax reform and are willing to risk political consequences to support it.

On that matter, Republicans are way behind, playing catch-up. A recent CBS News poll found that 58% of Americans think Trump’s tax plan benefits the wealthy, while just 18% think it benefits the middle class. That’s a giant gap. Better messaging about the plan might narrow the gap a little, but opinions are hard to change once fully formed. And the president himself, typically the top salesman for any major policy change, may in this case lack the credibility to convince rank-and-file Americans his plan will be good for them.

Trump’s core supporters seem willing to support him no matter what he says, but that may only constitute a quarter of all voters. Many of the rest need to be convinced, and Trump is not turning out to be a very good convincer. Part of the reason is a poor track record on promises made versus promises kept.
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procon

(15,805 posts)
3. OK, if the purpose of giving tax cuts to the rich is to promote their altruism and pass
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:01 PM
Oct 2017

their windfall on to the workers, then why isn't that provision baked into the bill? If that was true, then instead of a tax cut, why isn't a tax rebate or credit a better way to force the trickle down down theory to actually produce some results that benefits workers?

It's all lies!

petronius

(26,606 posts)
4. Right, and why isn't that happening now? The wealthiest
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:12 PM
Oct 2017

Americans are already getting wealthier--the gap is widening--but this increased prosperity at the top isn't triggering a burst of job creation and downward trickling. Why would a tax cut be any different?

So yeah, tax cuts and spending bills should be targetted directly at the sector they are meant to help (which this one clearly is)...

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
6. Many become wealthy because that's the way they are, corps are similar. IMO it's the rare case
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:24 PM
Oct 2017

when one dishes out money because they got a tax break. The republicans have been peddling this BS for decades and a fair number of Americans are so damn stupid they believe the BS.

Wounded Bear

(58,728 posts)
5. Funny thing about one of the Repubs old sayings...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:19 PM
Oct 2017

They like to say "let people keep their own money." Sounds great, doesn't it?

Problem is, when you let wealthy people "keep their own money" by not taxing it, they.....wait for it......they keep their own money!

The real purpose of high marginal tax rates is to get the top 1% to re-invest their money in ways that benefit the rest of society. Under the typical Repub regime, they tend to use that money in ways that benefit themselves...only. Used to be companies and wealthy folks would re-invest in plant and equipment, and even...gulp...in raising wages and salaries to reduce their AGI to a lower bracket and rate. Now, they typically use it to buy back stock to increase their leverage within the company/business.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
7. Yep!!! Exactly what goes on. Why are so many Americans so damn stupid they can't
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:26 PM
Oct 2017

comprehend what's going on ...

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
10. I thought the original explanation for when corporations got tax breaks
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:53 PM
Oct 2017

was they created jobs!!! Which is it?

Oh yeah, it's neither. The money they don't have to pay in taxes goes right into their own accounts.

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